Episode 10: What Siddhartha Wanted with Douglas Wilson

Pastor Douglas Wilson, critic of conditional immortality, joins Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date to discuss his objections to belief in the final annihilation of the unsaved.

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00:00
Intro Music
00:53
Chris Date Introduces the episode
01:49
Transition Music
02:05
Intro of Pastor Douglas Wilson of Christ Church in Moscow, Idaho
03:45
Areas of passion: “All of Christ, for all of life, for all the world” (Integrated Faith)
05:20
On debates and friendship with Christopher Hitchens
07:15
On dealing with hostility from Bloomington students
08:50
(Wilson) Christians and the sin of “shrillness”
09:45
Hell a hot topic
10:20
Can the nature of the discussion improve?
13:43
Can you summarize your view on hell?
14:40
(Wilson) Dante a work of art, not a blueprint for hell
15:00
(Wilson) “It’s bad and it’s forever.”
15:49
(Wilson) Open to discuss C.S. Lewis’ view in The Problem of Pain
17:38
Problems with the Lewis view
19:42
Seven Reasons Why we Cannot Water Down the Lake of Fire
20:33
The “Infinite Sin” argument
21:15
(Wilson) Flip it: Can a finite being do anything infinite?
22:18
Where do you locate Annihilationism on the acceptability spectrum?
25:01
Doug Wilson on Bell and Hell (YouTube video)
26:15
Annihilationism a variation of Universalism?
28:39
Wilson’s exchange with Andrew Perriman
34:10
Wilson’s 3 concerns with Annihilationism
34:28
Concern #1: Annihilation is just what Siddhartha wanted
36:56
Date responds to concern #1
38:30
Wilson interacts with Date’s response
41:01
Concern #2: Justice and Annihilationism
43:14
Wilson talks to this second of his concerns
45:30
Concern 2.5 (?): Degrees of Punishment
52:15
Concern #3: Consensus throughout Church History
55:25
Date responds
58:00
Wilson interacts with Date’s response
62:20
Wrapping Up: Parting Message from Wilson
63:30
Where to find Pastor Wilson online
64:10
Outro Music
64:19
Chris Date closes the episode
64:50
Closing theme music