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Reply Topic: Re: Heb 9:27 and the second death
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[quote="Wayfaring Stranger" post=5253][quote="timsimmk" post=5249]Hebrews 9:27 states that man only dies [u]once[/u], but the Bible speaks of a "[u]second[/u] death". Traditionalists claim that Heb 9:27 is referring to physical death and the "second death" is a spiritual death experienced when one is physically alive after resurrection. They thus argue that a person only ever physically dies once and so Heb 9:27 holds true. How do conditionalists respond to this? If the "second death" is a final state of complete physical death after resurrection and judgment, how can it be said that man is appointed to die only once?[/quote] Mankind has not experienced the same transition that Jesus experienced on the day He was resurrected from the grave. Immortal and if it was any other man a sinless heart would have been included. God set 120 years as being how long a man lives before he enters the grave in a sleeping state. Going to the grave wipes away all your sins so anybody going there is sinless when the are resurrected back from, be that at the start of the 1,000 years or just before it ends at an event called Judgment Day. Jesus and the OT Saints that were resurrected have all been glorified and that is the term used. The next to go through that same provess is on the day the two witnesses are resurrected. They are the first and by the end of that same the whole House of Israel is resurrected as well as the whole church. Both groups have some members that end that day without having to go to the grave. The whole population is a glorified group and they are static in number as they are not given in marriage,just like angels before they enter their new heaven. They have experienced the 2nd birth and they come under the Re:21 law instead of the 10 Commandments because the 10 Commandments are for sinners in a sinful world. The 1,000 reign is under a law suitable for immortal and sinless people in an era that last for eternity. The ones resurrected at Judgment Day are given a drink of living water as soon as the book of life is closed and that is what the glorification process includes first and for most. eating from the tree of life gives them a perfected body to go along with immortality and a new heart. Should anybody sin the the new earth they would be sent to the fiery lake alive just like all fallen angels do. God stops that before it starts. Isa:65:24: And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear.[/quote]
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