...For They Are Like the Angels

2 years 8 months ago #9400 by DTM
I recently was struck with an insight on Luke 20:36 -- “they can no longer die; for they are like the angels”. Here, Jesus is speaking about the redeemed who have been resurrected. I've never heard this verse approached in this way, and so I would like to bounce it off the folks here for your thoughts.

We who accept CI believe that “die” means what it normally means, “cessation of conscious existence”. Adherents of ECT insist it really means, “separation (or alienation) from God”. Now go back and insert those two definitions in that verse.

“Their conscious existence can no longer cease, for they are like the angels.” This makes perfect sense, and no one on either side would question it. But then…

“They can no longer be separated or alienated from God, for they are like the angels.” But we know this is utter nonsense. Angels certainly can be separated and alienated from God, because that is exactly what happened with Satan and his cohort. That cannot possibly be what Jesus meant.

So what are we to believe? I guess they could claim that, in just this one case, “die” actually does mean “die”. So “die” really means “separation”, except when it doesn’t?

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2 years 8 months ago #9401 by Singalphile
Good point, I think. I think I've C. Date and others make the same argument. I don't remember what the response is. I'm not sure what the response would be. Perhaps they'd just say that the wicked won't die physically either. To me and us, that assertion seems contrary to all the biblical evidence, but ... shrug.

"Singalphile" - Name chosen (hastily) to indicate being on a narrow path, pursuing the love of God. Male, upper-30's, USA.

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