Pastor Douglas Wilson, critic of conditional immortality, joins Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date to discuss his objections to belief in the final annihilation of the unsaved.
Promoted Resources
- Doug Wilson’s blog, “Blog and Mablog”: http://www.dougwils.com/
- The church at which Doug pastors: http://www.christkirk.com/
Podcast Outline
- 00:00
- Intro Music
- 00:53
- Chris Date Introduces the episode
- 01:49
- Transition Music
- 02:05
- Intro of Pastor Douglas Wilson of Christ Church in Moscow, Idaho
- 03:45
- Areas of passion: “All of Christ, for all of life, for all the world” (Integrated Faith)
- 05:20
- On debates and friendship with Christopher Hitchens
- 07:15
- On dealing with hostility from Bloomington students
- 08:50
- (Wilson) Christians and the sin of “shrillness”
- 09:45
- Hell a hot topic
- 10:20
- Can the nature of the discussion improve?
- 13:43
- Can you summarize your view on hell?
- 14:40
- (Wilson) Dante a work of art, not a blueprint for hell
- 15:00
- (Wilson) “It’s bad and it’s forever.”
- 15:49
- (Wilson) Open to discuss C.S. Lewis’ view in The Problem of Pain
- 17:38
- Problems with the Lewis view
- 19:42
- Seven Reasons Why we Cannot Water Down the Lake of Fire
- 20:33
- The “Infinite Sin” argument
- 21:15
- (Wilson) Flip it: Can a finite being do anything infinite?
- 22:18
- Where do you locate Annihilationism on the acceptability spectrum?
- 25:01
- Doug Wilson on Bell and Hell (YouTube video)
- 26:15
- Annihilationism a variation of Universalism?
- 28:39
- Wilson’s exchange with Andrew Perriman
- 34:10
- Wilson’s 3 concerns with Annihilationism
- 34:28
- Concern #1: Annihilation is just what Siddhartha wanted
- 36:56
- Date responds to concern #1
- 38:30
- Wilson interacts with Date’s response
- 41:01
- Concern #2: Justice and Annihilationism
- 43:14
- Wilson talks to this second of his concerns
- 45:30
- Concern 2.5 (?): Degrees of Punishment
- 52:15
- Concern #3: Consensus throughout Church History
- 55:25
- Date responds
- 58:00
- Wilson interacts with Date’s response
- 62:20
- Wrapping Up: Parting Message from Wilson
- 63:30
- Where to find Pastor Wilson online
- 64:10
- Outro Music
- 64:19
- Chris Date closes the episode
- 64:50
- Closing theme music