Rethinking Hell contributors William Tanksley and Daniel Sinclair, and guest contributor Peter Berthelsen, join Chris Date for a massive five-hour review of his recent debate with Len Pettis of the Bible Thumping Wingnut, and of some of the conversations that have taken place since.
This episode contains part one of three.
Debate and Follow-Up Audio
- Chris Date and Len Pettis Debate Hell
- https://rethinkinghell.com/2016/09/episode-94-is-conditional-immortality-biblical-chris-date-and-len-pettis-debate-hell/
- Len Pettis is Second Caller Into Matt Slick Radio
- http://carmpodcasting.blogspot.com/2016/09/carm-podcast-912.html?m=1
- Conversations from the Porch Reviews the Debate in Episode 21
- https://m.soundcloud.com/biblethumpingwingnut/cftp-episode-21-hell-debate-brother-rc-striving-for-eternity-discussion-hangout
- The Bible Thumping Wingnut Reviews the Debate in Episode 202
- https://soundcloud.com/biblethumpingwingnut/btwn-episode-202-ending-well
Links Discussed
- “A Seat at the Table: An Appeal for Dialogue and Fellowship,” by Chris Date
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdTc-EQ1XPY
- “The Same Before and After: A Response to Matt Slick,” by Chris Date
- http://www.rethinkinghell.com/2012/07/the-same-before-and-after-a-response-to-matt-slick
- “Cross Purposes: Atonement, Death and the Fate of the Wicked (Part 2),” by Chris Date
- https://rethinkinghell.com/2016/08/cross-purposes-part-2/
- “A Philosophical Case for Conditional Immortality,” by Daniel Sinclair
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsJ0-X78R9Y
- “Intrinsic Value, Sanctity of Life, and Capital Punishment: A Response to J. P. Moreland,” by Chris Date
- http://www.rethinkinghell.com/2013/03/intrinsic-value-sanctity-of-life-and-capital-punishment-a-response-to-j-p-moreland
- “Conditionalism and Evangelism,” by Daniel Sinclair
- http://www.wholereason.com/2014/07/conditionalism-and-evangelism.html
- “Five Reasons Why Len Pettis is Wrong About Μενω,” by Peter Berthelsen
- https://medium.com/@_berthelsen/five-reasons-why-len-pettis-is-wrong-about-%CE%BC%CE%B5%CE%BD%CF%89-ad7e9a78ce50#.pv2hlfjw1
- “Whatever death means, it supports conditionalism,” by Joseph Dear
- http://www.rethinkinghell.com/2012/11/whatever-death-means-it-supports-conditionalism
- “Traditionalism and the (Not So) Second Death,” by Chris Date
- http://www.rethinkinghell.com/2012/09/traditionalism-and-the-not-so-second-death
- “Lazarus and the Rich Man: It’s Not About Final Punishment,” by Chris Date
- http://www.rethinkinghell.com/2012/06/lazarus-and-the-rich-man-its-not-about-final-punishment
Ministry Links
- 2016 Rethinking Hell Conference Website
- http://www.rethinkinghellconference.com/
- Conference Ticketing Page at EventBrite
- http://www.eventbrite.com/e/rethinking-hell-conference-2016-tickets-26518320009
2 thoughts on “Episode 96: Date vs. Pettis Debate Review (Part 1)”
I have a possible solution to Adam not dying on the day he ate the fruit. I’m no Hebrew scholar but it seems like he was supposed to die that very day but God showed mercy and sacrificed an animal in his place. This shows an obvious picture of the atonement to me. Maybe I’m wrong but it seems to make sense.
Revelation 9:6
In those days people will seek death but will not find it. They will long to die, but death will flee from them
-This is the only time in scripture where the wicked desire to die and cannot die. Anyone in the torment of flames would equally desire death and unconsciousness to end their suffering but the Bible makes no mention of men desiring to die, and that’s because they will be burned up into ashes and unto eternal unconsciousness