How the ECT lens of G.K. Beale distorts his interpretation of 2 Thessalonians 1:9

Introduction:

G.K. Beale is renowned for his scholarship in the area of NT exegesis, especially his work on Revelation. I regularly consult his literature on the NT when investigating the finer points of NT Greek. In his commentary on the Thessalonian letters, Beale gives some space to discuss the meaning of 2 Thessalonians 1:9. Much of his discussion is aimed at answering the question of whether Paul meant to convey that unbelievers will be ‘annihilated at the final judgement’ or suffer an ‘everlasting, conscious suffering’.1G.K. Beale, 1–2 Thessalonians, (InterVarsity Press: 2003), 187. Beale concludes Paul was teaching the separation view of ECT (eternal conscious torment) in this verse. This article aims to evaluate his reasons for that conclusion.

The meaning of ὄλεθρος (olethros):

Interestingly, Beale finds that Paul’s use of ὄλεθρος in other passages is not determinative for understanding the use of the noun in 2 Thessalonians 1:9.21 Cor 5:5; 1 Thess 5:3; 1 Tim 6:9 He mentions that ὄλεθρος can refer to physical death,3LXX 1 Kings 13:34; Ezek 14:16–18; 3 Macc 6:30, 34 and the defeat of one nation by another.4Jer 48:3; 51:55; Obad 1:13 He gives more attention to the use of the phrase ὄλεθρον αἰώνιον (‘eternal destruction’) in 4 Maccabees 10:15:

By the blessed death of my brothers and the eternal destruction of the tyrant (τὸν αἰώνιον τοῦ τυράννου ὄλεθρον) and the praiseworthy life of piety, I will not renounce my noble brotherhood.5Unless otherwise indicated quotations from the LXX will be from The Lexham English Septuagint.

Beale appeals to other statements in 4 Maccabees to show that ὄλεθρον αἰώνιον (‘eternal destruction’) ‘is defined by the context not as annihilation but as unending suffering.’6Beale, 1–2 Thessalonians, 188. To support this claim, he highlights that Antiochus is said to ‘endure, by divine justice, eternal torture by fire’ (4 Macc 9:9),7Unless otherwise indicated, the English translation of the LXX will be from LES. and ‘perpetually endure tortures’ (4 Macc 10:11). The tyrant is told that God has ‘reserved divine justice for you, constant and eternal fire and tortures’ (4 Macc 12:12).8Beale, 1–2 Thessalonians, 188.

Rethinking Hell contributor, James Harding, has published an article on 4 Maccabees here. Harding presents a case for the perspective that 4 Maccabees does not offer support for traditionalism. This is a challenge to Beale’s position. A full evaluation of Harding’s work is beyond the scope of this article so I will leave it to the reader to evaluate Harding’s work. For the purposes of this article I would like to focus on Beale’s methodology employed in his commentary on 2 Thessalonians. Ironically, his appeal to the context of 4 Maccabees 10:15 to clarify the meaning of ‘eternal destruction’ is a tacit admission that the phrase itself is ambiguous. That is, Beale knew he could not simply assert that the mere use of the phrase ‘eternal destruction’ justifies a traditionalist reading of 4 Maccabees 10:15. He knew that he had to cite other statements made by the same author to establish the meaning of that phrase. The problem is Paul does not use similar language anywhere in his literature. So, even if the reader remains unconvinced by James Harding’s article on 4 Maccabees, Beale still has a burden to show that Paul used ὄλεθρον αἰώνιον (‘eternal destruction’) in the same way as the author of 4 Maccabee.

Beale is also mistaken that 4 Maccabees 10:15 is the only relevant example that could illustrate what Paul meant by ὄλεθρον αἰώνιον (‘eternal destruction’). He overlooks a key entry in BDAG, which lists Testament of Reuben as a text using a combination of these words in the larger phrase ὄλεθρον Βελίαρ καὶ ὄνειδος αἰώνιον (‘the eternal destruction of Beliar and an eternal disgrace’).9BGAD, s.v. “ὄλεθρος.” For the critical-text that has this variant see Robert Henry Chalrles, The Greek Versions of the Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs, (Oxford University Press: 1960), 12. BDAG juxtaposes the citation to the Testament of Reuben 6:3 with 2 Thessalonians 1:9. The gloss given is ‘eternal death’. Αἰώνιος (aiōnios) is taken to modify ὄλεθρος even though it falls at the end of the sentence. The phrase can be taken as an example of the two words being used to refer to eternal destruction. The Testament of Reuben is part of the larger body of work called the Twelve Testaments of the Patriarchs. The authorship of the Testaments is debated. The corpus itself contains interpolations from Christians and (like the Bible) there are more than one versions of the Greek text of the Testaments. Nevertheless, it is possible to obtain a general understanding of what is meant by ‘eternal destruction’.

Whereas 4 Maccabees contains language that does prima facie refer to eternal torture, the same is not the case with the Twelves Tetaments. The only verse that comes close is Testament of Asher 5:6, which refers to souls being harassed after people have died. The Greek word used here is βασανίζω, which can refer to torture; however, the text lacks an explicit statement regarding the duration of this harassment. In contrast, there are statements that the righteous will enter into eternal life (Testament of Asher 5:6). Obtaining eternal life is how ‘one wards off death’ (Testament of Asher 5:2). Meanwhile, the people of Sodom are said to have ‘perished forever’ (Testament of Asher 7:1). The verb here is ἀπόλλυμι (apollumi), which is used throughout the testaments to refer to the killing of people. Finally, Treatment of Benjamin 7 describes the fate of Cain after he slew his brother Abel. Cain is punished with 7 punishments, the last of which is being ‘deprived of life’ (7:4). In the Testaments the righteous obtain eternal life so forever ward of death, while the unrighteous are deprived of life.

Beale may not have been aware of the use of ὄλεθρον αἰώνιον in the Testament of Reuben when he wrote his commentary on the Thessalonian letters, but it was not at all difficult to locate, given BDAG explicitly refers to it in its entry on ὄλεθρος. Beale could have located this text with a basic search of the lexica available to him. His failure to acknowledge this text mirrors his tendency elsewhere in his commentary on 2 Thessalonians 1:9 to gravitate towards evidence that supports a traditionalist reading of that verse.

In order to support his reading of 2 Thessalonians 1:9, Beale discusses a connection to LXX Isaiah 66.

This understanding of everlasting destruction is supported also by noting that Paul derives the phrase “in a blazing fire, giving vengeance” (en pyri phlogos didontos ekdikēsin; in blazing fire.… He will punish in NIV) from Isaiah 66:15: “the Lord will render his vengeance … in a flame of fire” (apodounai … ekdikēsin … en phlogi pyros), the only place in the Old Testament where this combination of terms is found. This is noteworthy because only nine verses later comes the well-known depiction of those who have been judged—“their worm will not die, nor will their fire be quenched” (Is 66:24)—a clear reference to an unending punishment of conscious beings.10Beale, 1–2 Thessalonians, 189.

While Beale correctly notes that LXX Isaiah 66:15 is a relevant OT source text for the language of 2 Thessalonians 1:8, he fails to mention that the context of the source text explicitly has to do with the death of God’s enemies. To illustrate this, we can follow Beale’s method when discussing LXX 4 Maccabees 10:15 and read LXX Isaiah 66:15 in its immediate context of LXX Isaiah 66:15-17, 23-24:

For look, the Lord will come like a fire, and his chariots will come like a storm, to render his vengeance in wrath and his utter rejection in a flame of fire. For the whole earth will be judged by the fire of the Lord, and all flesh will be judged by his sword; there will be many casualties by the Lord. “Those who cleanse and purify themselves for the gardens and who eat swine’s flesh and abominable things and the mouse in the doorways will be destroyed all at once,” said the Lord.

And this will happen: All flesh will come to bow down before me month after month and Sabbath after Sabbath in Jerusalem,” said the Lord. “And they will go out and see the corpses of the humans who transgressed against me, for their worm does not die, and their fire will not be quenched, and they will become a spectacle for all flesh.”

Note the emphasis on the casualties. They are slain. Their corpses are left unburied, and open the elements. This is not a context in which the survival of those being punished is in view. Yet Beale ignores this completely. His assertion that the statement ‘their worm will not die, nor will their fire be quenched’ is ‘a clear reference to an unending punishment of conscious beings’ flies in the face of the evidence. Beale is inconsistent in how he appeals to the literary context of LXX 4 Maccabees 10:15 to clarify its meaning while ignoring entirely the literary context of LXX Isaiah 55:15 and 24. He follows sound exegetical practice when discussing a verse that can be seen as support for ECT but fails to apply the same process when discussing passages that do not support his view of hell.

Punishment as separation?

Beale thinks that 2 Thessalonians 1:9 teaches the final punishment of unbelievers is their eternal separation from God.

In 1:9 Paul defines this ongoing punishment as being separated from close relationship with God, “destruction in the sense of deprivation of the Lord’s presence” (Williams 1992:116). Unbelievers do not cease to exist because of God’s final judgment, but they are banned from ever existing in his presence (Richard 1995:308 rightly observes that the double use of from highlights not extinction of existence but a “ruin” that is defined as continued existence separate from Christ and lasting forever). If Paul had intended to convey a notion of annihilation, he could have merely said, they will be punished with everlasting destruction, without mentioning that those judged would be excluded from God’s presence. Thus, the punishment “fits the crime,” in that those who refuse to know God (1:8) and want to be separate from him in this life will be punished by being separated from God in the next life.11Beale, 1–2 Thessalonians, 188–189.

Ὄλεθρος does not mean ‘separation’ or ‘deprivation’ in any other context in ancient Greek literature.12I have consulted the major lexica I own, including BGAD, s.v. “ὄλεθρος.”; BrillDAG, s.v. “ὄλεθρος.”; Louw-Nida, s.v. “ὄλεθρος.”; LSJ, s.v. “ὄλεθρος.”; and, CGL, s.v. “ὄλεθρος.” The noun certainly does not take this meaning in the three other instances Paul uses it, and it does not take on this meaning in the LXX. If Paul were to have used ὄλεθρος to denote a sense of destruction as separation or deprivation, then it would be a sui generis use of the word. This would demand the provision of indisputable evidence that Paul used this noun in a novel way.

Beale quotes David Williams and Earle Richard as support for his assertion. Neither of them offer a compelling reason to support Beale’s position. Their position that exclusion is in view is based on several lines of arguments. Williams points to Ephesians 2:12 (‘remember that you were at that time separated from Christ’) as evidence of a theme of separation from Christ in Paul’s theology. However, that is a different context entirely. It does not follow that since Paul described people as being separated from Christ before their salvation that he used ὄλεθρον αἰώνιον (‘eternal destruction’) to refer to the eternal separation of those suffering the final punishment. Besides, in Ephesians 2:12 Paul uses the word χωρίς (chōris), a word that usually denotes the notion of separation . This word is not used in either of the Thessalonian epistles. Instead, the preposition ἀπό (apo) does all the work for the traditionalist reading of 2 Thessalonians 1:9.

Williams also uncritically appeals to ἀπό as if it can only possibly mean ‘away from’ in this context and approvingly of the NIVs unjustifiable rendering of ἀπό as ‘shut out from’. Richard does cite Isaiah 2:10, which is commonly thought to be an OT source text for Paul’s language in 2 Thessalonians 1:9. Isaiah 2:10 reads as,

Enter into the rock and hide in the dust from before the terror of the Lord, and from the splendor of his majesty.

 

Richard fails to explain how Isaiah 2:10 supports a separation version of ECT. The implied argument is since the people are told to hide into caves then the idea of being in a place that is entirely removed from God justifies NIV’s rendering of ἀπό as ‘shut out from’ and the separation interpretation of 2 Thessalonians 1:9 generally. The LXX renders Isaiah 2:10 as ἀπὸ προσώπου τοῦ φόβου κυρίου (‘from the presence of the fear of the Lord’). To be sure, the preposition ἀπό is well capably of denoting the notion of separation of a person from another person. Yet, all of the major translations of the LXX refrain from rendering LXX Isaiah 2:10 in a way that comports with the notion of ‘shut out from’.

LEH

And now, enter into the rocks and hide in the earth from the face of the fear of the Lord and from the glory of his strength, when he rises to shatter the earth.

NETS

And now enter into the rocks, and hide in the earth, from before the fear of the Lord and from the glory of his strength, when he rises to crush the earth.

Brenton

Now therefore enter ye into the rocks, and hide yourselves in the earth, for fear of the Lord, and by reason of the glory of his might, when he shall arise to strike terribly the earth.

Rethinking Hell contributors Ronnie Demler and William Tanksley have discussed Paul’s use of ἀπό in an article here. They have shown how traditionalists misread Isaiah 2:10 by pointing out that people depicted there ‘are not hiding in a place separated away from their terror; they are hiding because of the presence of their terror.’ Demler and Tanksley are not alone in recognizing this.13See Graham S. Ogden and Jan Sterk, A Handbook on Isaiah, (United Bible Societies: 2011), 95; Gary V. Smith, Isaiah 1–39, (B & H Publishing Group: 2007), 139; Geoffrey W. Grogan, “Isaiah,” in The Expositor’s Bible Commentary: Isaiah, Jeremiah, Lamentations, Ezekiel, ed. Frank E. Gaebelein, (Zondervan Publishing House: 1986), 37.

Finally, it is worth noting Richard Ottley’s comments on the meaning of ἀπὸ προσώπου:

ἀπὸ προσώπου] A literal rendering of Heb. מפני, which is used almost as a simple preposition, sometimes meaning little more than ‘because of’: here the original meaning is hardly lost.14Richard R. Ottley, The Book of Isaiah according to the Septuagint, (Cambridge University Press: 1906), 113.

This supports Demler and Tanksley’s reading of Isaiah 2:10. The focus is on hiding because of fear of God’s punishment. One cannot be separated from their own emotions in a locative way. This being so, the mere fact that Isaiah 2:10 is the source for Paul’s language in 2 Thessalonians 1:9 is insufficient grounds for concluding that his use of ἀπὸ there should be regarded as denoting separation.

Beale’s favorable quotations of Williams and Richard without critical discussion suggests a willingness to only gather evidence that support the separative ECT reading of 2 Thessalonians 1:9. An example of this is seen in how Beale states that:

Richard … rightly observes that the double use of from highlights not extinction of existence but a “ruin” that is defined as continued existence separate from Christ and lasting forever.15Beale, 1–2 Thessalonians, 188–189.

Neither Beale nor Richard explain why the double use of ἀπὸ denotes a ‘continued existence separate from Christ’. There is no provision of examples from undisputed texts showing how the dual use of ἀπὸ was a typical way separation was expressed using that preposition. It is merely asserted. This is not a compelling reason to adopt Beale’s reading of 2 Thessalonians 1:9. I contend that he cites this argument because of his intention to show that the ECT reading of this verse has merit. That Beale can state ‘Isaiah’s phrase underscores that idolaters will be forced to separate themselves from God’s presence at the time of judgment’16Beale, 1–2 Thessalonians, 189. just after discussing Isaiah 66 where the corpses of God’s slain enemies speak to a mindset of an intention to marshal only the evidence that supports his view of hell.

Conclusion:

The case has been made that Beale does not follow the evidence when interpreting a verse like 2 Thessalonians 1:9. He is a traditionalist who wears his ECT lens when discussing this verse. It shows through in the way he omits even discussing aspects of Isaiah 66 that clearly mitigates against his view of hell. It shows through even as he uncritically cites other authors who share his view of hell. Beale has earned his reputation as a top NT scholar. Unfortunately, when it comes to a hell proof text like 2 Thessalonians 1:9, his ECT glasses lead him into eisegesis of that verse.

References
1 G.K. Beale, 1–2 Thessalonians, (InterVarsity Press: 2003), 187.
2 1 Cor 5:5; 1 Thess 5:3; 1 Tim 6:9
3 LXX 1 Kings 13:34; Ezek 14:16–18; 3 Macc 6:30, 34
4 Jer 48:3; 51:55; Obad 1:13
5 Unless otherwise indicated quotations from the LXX will be from The Lexham English Septuagint.
6 Beale, 1–2 Thessalonians, 188.
7 Unless otherwise indicated, the English translation of the LXX will be from LES.
8 Beale, 1–2 Thessalonians, 188.
9 BGAD, s.v. “ὄλεθρος.” For the critical-text that has this variant see Robert Henry Chalrles, The Greek Versions of the Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs, (Oxford University Press: 1960), 12.
10 Beale, 1–2 Thessalonians, 189.
11 Beale, 1–2 Thessalonians, 188–189.
12 I have consulted the major lexica I own, including BGAD, s.v. “ὄλεθρος.”; BrillDAG, s.v. “ὄλεθρος.”; Louw-Nida, s.v. “ὄλεθρος.”; LSJ, s.v. “ὄλεθρος.”; and, CGL, s.v. “ὄλεθρος.” The noun certainly does not take this meaning in the three other instances Paul uses it, and it does not take on this meaning in the LXX.
13 See Graham S. Ogden and Jan Sterk, A Handbook on Isaiah, (United Bible Societies: 2011), 95; Gary V. Smith, Isaiah 1–39, (B & H Publishing Group: 2007), 139; Geoffrey W. Grogan, “Isaiah,” in The Expositor’s Bible Commentary: Isaiah, Jeremiah, Lamentations, Ezekiel, ed. Frank E. Gaebelein, (Zondervan Publishing House: 1986), 37.
14 Richard R. Ottley, The Book of Isaiah according to the Septuagint, (Cambridge University Press: 1906), 113.
15 Beale, 1–2 Thessalonians, 188–189.
16 Beale, 1–2 Thessalonians, 189.

Romans 5:18 Does not Support Universalism

Introduction:

Thomas Talbott is well known as a philosopher who has published books and articles in defense of universalism. He is generally well regarded in universalist circles. In an online article called How to Read the Bible from a Universalist Perspective, he discusses why he thinks Romans 5:18 is clear support for universalism. My goal in this article is to evaluate the reason he gives in his positive case for his reading of this verse.

Talbott’s argument:

Talbott begins by quoting Romans 5:18 in the following way.1Talbott uses the NRSV here. Unless otherwise indicated I will be using the ESV.

Therefore just as one man’s trespass led to condemnation for

all [humans],

so one man’s act of righteousness leads to justification and life

for [them] all.

Talbott obviously chose to present the verse like this to highlight the parallelism in this verse. He then explains the significance of this.

The whole point of such a parallel structure, so typical of Paul, is to identify a single group of individuals and to make two parallel statements about that single group of individuals, and the practical effect is therefore to eliminate any possibility of ambiguity. The very ones who came under condemnation, as a result of the first Adam’s act of disobedience, will eventually be brought to justification and life, as a result of the second Adam’s act of obedience. Or, as Paul put it in verse 19: the very ones who were constituted sinners, as a result of the first Adam’s act of disobedience, will eventually be constituted righteous, as a result of the second Adam’s act of obedience. I do not know how Paul could have expressed himself any more clearly than that.

Analysis of Talbott’s argument:

His entire case for the universalist reading of Romans 5:18 rests on the premise that the parallelism of the verse means both ‘all’ clauses refer to the exact same group of people. There is some merit to this in the sense that the use of parallelism means a similar basic notion is in view. In Romans 5:18a, there is one man’s act that has had consequences for ‘all’, and this is mirrored in Romans 5:18b where the one act of Christ has consequences for ‘all’. However, it does not follow that since Romans 5:18a refers to all humans who will have ever lived then Romans 5:18b does too.

Reasons why Talbott is incorrect:

For one thing, biblical parallelism generally is rooted in Hebrew poetic literature where parallel statements were not intended to be read as A = B.

The term “parallelism” has, unfortunately, spawned a common misunderstanding. Many people understand it to mean that a second poetic line merely restates or contrasts the point of the previous line in different words. They assume that an equal sign (=) links the lines together. Actually, parallelism is that phenomenon whereby two or more successive poetic lines dynamically strengthen, reinforce, and develop each other’s thought.2Emphasis by Klein et al. William W. Klein, Craig L. Blomberg & Robert L. Hubbard, Introduction to Biblical Interpretation, 3rd ed., (Zondervan Academic: 2017), 373-374.

Being heavily influenced by the OT, the NT authors used parallelism to express aspects of their theology. This often occurred because the NT author would draw from OT passages containing parallelism but this is not always so. One example is found in Romans 4:25 which is structurally a parallelism.3It is tempting to list the many examples I have found over the years but this would be an unneeded digression since Talbott notes that Paul typically used parallelism in his writings.

who was delivered up for our trespasses

and was raised for our justification

ὃς παρεδόθη διὰ τὰ παραπτώματα ἡμῶν

καὶ ἠγέρθη διὰ τὴν δικαίωσιν ἡμῶν

Διὰ is polysemous so can be understood in several ways, which has led Pauline scholars to discuss the many possible ways Romans 4:25 could be interpreted. Most scholars do not think the Greek preposition διὰ (dia) has exactly the same meaning each time it is used in this verse. This is because interpretations where διὰ has the same meaning have significant problems.4For a discussion on the various problems facing those interpretations of Romans 4:25 which take διὰ as having the same meaning in each line of the verse see Michael Bird, ‘“Raised for Our Justification”: A fresh look at Romans 4:25’, in Colloquium, 35 (2003): 31-46; Douglas Moo, The Epistle to the Romans (William B. Eerdmans Publishing: 1996), 288-289. This shows that when Paul used polysemous words in parallel statements he did not necessarily intend the exact same meaning to apply in both lines of that statement.5This is in contrast to the parallelism of Matthew 10:28 where the way ἀπόλλυμι is used means it lacks its normal range of meaning (it can only mean ‘to slay’ there). In this case ἀπόλλυμι and ἀποκτείνω (‘to kill’) are synonymous. The parallelism there serves to develop an a fortiori logic through the use of synonyms. On this, see Glenn Peoples’s article The meaning of “apollumi” in the Synoptic Gospels Like διὰ, πᾶς (pas, ‘all’) can take on different senses in various contexts, depending on the referent being modified.6J. William Johnston, The Use of Πας in the New Testament, (Peter Lang: 2004), 57-58. This means any given passage where πᾶς is used could be taken in more than one way, even where parallelism is used. This is something that even Talbott tacitly admits as he does discuss possible contextual indicators that might impinge on our interpretation of Romans 5:18.

Regarding the parallelism in Romans 5:18, Paul has already stated twice that Adam’s trespass is not like the free gift of grace (Rom 5:15a, 16a). Adam’s sin allowed death to reign through him, but the gift is not simply the reversal of this result. A simple reversal would be that death no longer reigns over sinners. However, Paul goes out of his way to say that the gift brings ‘much more’ (Rom 15, 17) than this. Whereas Adam’s sin resulted in death reigning over those who sin, the free gift means those receiving the free gift will themselves continually reign through Christ. My point here is that Paul has gone out of his way to emphasize the two scenarios are not identical in terms of the result. This opens the door to the possibility that Paul did not intend εἰς πάντας ἀνθρώπους (‘for all men’) to be read as referring to the exact same ‘single group of individuals’ each time the phrase is used in the verse as Talbott supposes. Since the parallelism of Romans 5:18 is the only argument Talbott makes in his positive case for his reading of the verse, his argument has failed.

One of the ways we can know that Paul did not think all will receive the gift and reign in life is he tells us so in Romans 2:6-8:

For he will repay according to each one’s deeds: to those who by patiently doing good seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; while for those who are self-seeking and who obey not the truth but wickedness, there will be wrath and fury.

Only one group of people will be given eternal life. They actively seek glory, honor and immortality through their actions. Later, Paul writes that the redemption that is in Christ is received through faith (Romans 3:24-25, c.f. 4:24-25). This is the context for his statement that ‘those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness’ (Rom 5:17). These are the people who are in view when Paul says ‘one act of righteousness leads to justification and life to all men’.

Conclusion:

Talbott, like many universalists, thinks that his particular reading of Romans 5:18 is the obvious one. His argument fails because he relied on a single positive argument on the structure of Romans 5:18. He does not defend his assumption about Paul’s use of parallelism in this verse. He simply asserts it. However, an awareness of the way parallelism is used by the biblical authors shows this is mistaken. This means Talbott needs to do much more to show his reading of that verse is warranted. As such, conditionalists can continue to be confident in our conclusion that Romans 5:18 does not support universalism.

 

References
1 Talbott uses the NRSV here. Unless otherwise indicated I will be using the ESV.
2 Emphasis by Klein et al. William W. Klein, Craig L. Blomberg & Robert L. Hubbard, Introduction to Biblical Interpretation, 3rd ed., (Zondervan Academic: 2017), 373-374.
3 It is tempting to list the many examples I have found over the years but this would be an unneeded digression since Talbott notes that Paul typically used parallelism in his writings.
4 For a discussion on the various problems facing those interpretations of Romans 4:25 which take διὰ as having the same meaning in each line of the verse see Michael Bird, ‘“Raised for Our Justification”: A fresh look at Romans 4:25’, in Colloquium, 35 (2003): 31-46; Douglas Moo, The Epistle to the Romans (William B. Eerdmans Publishing: 1996), 288-289.
5 This is in contrast to the parallelism of Matthew 10:28 where the way ἀπόλλυμι is used means it lacks its normal range of meaning (it can only mean ‘to slay’ there). In this case ἀπόλλυμι and ἀποκτείνω (‘to kill’) are synonymous. The parallelism there serves to develop an a fortiori logic through the use of synonyms. On this, see Glenn Peoples’s article The meaning of “apollumi” in the Synoptic Gospels
6 J. William Johnston, The Use of Πας in the New Testament, (Peter Lang: 2004), 57-58.

Cutting through the noise: How Craig Ireland misses the best of conditionalist exegesis

Introduction:

Last year when Kirk Cameron announced he had come to accept annihilationism as the Scriptural view of hell, there was an explosion of responses from traditionalists from around the globe explaining why he was in error. Craig Ireland is one such traditionalist. Whilst Ireland is, as far as I know, not known on the global stage, he does seem to have a robust following in Brisbane, Australia. He posted several blog articles on his Substack page. I first encountered him on Facebook, where I noticed his posts had gained quite some attention from a very large number of annihilationists.1I am no longer on Facebook, which removed my account on the mistaken conclusion that I have been impersonating the real Darren J. Clark. That seems to warrant this short response. My intention with this article is to engage with Ireland’s charge that annihilationists are hermeneutically inconsistent, a charge he levels in his Substack article, Death by a Thousand Comments: What Three Thousand Annihilationists Taught me about Annihilationism. My main point is, though Ireland engaged with numerous annihilationists online, he does not appear to be aware of the stronger exegetical arguments for conditionalism.

In his article, Ireland gives two examples of annihilationist hermeneutical inconsistency, which I will discuss separately.

Matthew 25:46:

The heart of Ireland’s criticism of annihilationists handling of Matthew 25:46 is the way they would treat the word αἰώνιος (aiōnios) as it is used in this verse. Specifically, Ireland reports that;

Annihilationists frequently argued that aionios means “age-long” or “pertaining to the age” rather than “everlasting.” They insisted that the punishment could be finite in duration while life is infinite.

The basis of his response is the argument that the same word (αἰώνιος, aiōnios) used twice in the same sentence must have the same meaning. This is an ancient argument. The earliest expression of this argument I have found is from Augustine.

Then what a fond fancy is it to suppose that eternal punishment means long continued punishment, while eternal life means life without end, since Christ in the very same passage spoke of both in similar terms in one and the same sentence, “These shall go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into life eternal!” If both destinies are “eternal,” then we must either understand both as long-continued but at last terminating, or both as endless. For they are correlative,–on the one hand, punishment eternal, on the other hand, life eternal. And to say in one and the same sense, life eternal shall be endless, punishment eternal shall come to an end, is the height of absurdity. Wherefore, as the eternal life of the saints shall be endless, so too the eternal punishment of those who are doomed to it shall have no end.2Saint Augustine, The Complete Works of Saint Augustine, Kindle ed. (No publisher given, 2013), Kindle loc. 21975-21981.

In the past I have contemplated the worth of pointing out that traditionalists making this argument could run into problems if universalists were to make the same argument about Romans 5:18. It is not simply that ‘all’ (πᾶς, pas) is used twice in the same sentence. There are parallel prepositional phrases which mirror that found in Matthew 25:46;

Mateo 25:46

And these will go away into eternal punishment (εἰς κόλασιν αἰώνιον),

but the righteous into eternal life (εἰς ζωὴν αἰώνιον).

Romans 5:18

Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men (εἰς πάντας ἀνθρώπους)

one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men (εἰς πάντας ἀνθρώπους).3Edit: Thomas Talbott makes this point in his

 

 

‘The whole point of such a parallel structure, so typical of Paul, is to identify a single group of individuals and to make two parallel statements about that single group of individuals, and the practical effect is therefore to eliminate any possibility of ambiguity. The very ones who came under condemnation, as a result of the first Adam’s act of disobedience, will eventually be brought to justification and life, as a result of the second Adam’s act of obedience.’

Being a traditionalist, Ireland does not think that all will finally be justified. Yet universalists would be able to use his own argument against him, insisting that since the same word ‘all’ (πᾶς, pas) is used twice in the same sentence, then Romans 5:18 must be interpreted as saying all will be justified. I have no doubt Ireland would be able to think of a response of some sort, but he still will be subject to the charge that he treats ‘all’ (πᾶς, pas) with a different sense. His only viable option is to argue that πᾶς does mean ‘all’ in both clauses in Roman 5:18, but the individual clauses ‘one trespass led to condemnation for all men’ and ‘one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for fall men’ refer to different groups of people. In the first clause, the idea is all who are in Adam and sinned are condemned, while in the second clause, the idea is all who are in Christ are justified and find life. Ireland would only need to argue that not all end up being in Christ so they are not included in the group referenced in Romans 5:18b. “All” (πᾶς, pas) is taken with the same sense in each clause, but two different groups are in view. This helps shed light on the fallacy of Ireland’s argument. The mere fact the same word is used twice in the same sentence with the same sense does not necessarily mean the exact same concept is communicated in the clauses in which they are used.

Bringing this back to Matthew 25:46, I do think that αἰώνιος (aiōnios) means ‘eternal’ both times it is used there. However, this does not necessarily support the conclusion that since the righteous will live forever, then the unrighteous will also experience their punishment forever. A key point to make at this juncture is at a conceptual level being dead permanently does qualify as an eternal punishment. Johnathan Edwards (while arguing against conditional immortality) explains it this way;

For, if it be owned, that Scripture expressions denote a punishment that is properly eternal, but that it is in no other sense properly so, than as the annihilation, or state of non-existence, to which the wicked shall return, will be eternal; and that this eternal annihilation is that death which is so often threatened for sin, perishing far ever, everlasting destruction, being lost, utterly consumed, See. and that the fire of hell is called eternal fire, in the same sense that the external fire which consumed the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha is called eternal fire, Jude 7. because it utterly consumed those cities, that they might never be built more; and that this fire is called that which cannot be quenched, or at least not until it has destroyed them that are cast into it. If this be all that these expressions denote, then they do not at all signify the length of the torments, or long continuance of their misery; so that the supposition of the length of their torments is brought in without any necessity, the Scripture saying nothing of it, having no respect to it, when it speaks of their everlasting punishments; and it answers the scripture expressions as well, to suppose that they shall be annihilated immediately, without any long pains, provided the annihilation be everlasting.4Jonathan Edwards, The Works of President Edwards: With a Memoir of His Life, (G. & C. & H. Carvill: 1830), 401.

Edwards is saying that if the annihilation of the person is permanent, then it truly does mean the punishment of that person is eternal. From my perspective, this means that ‘eternal punishment’ can legitimately refer to the eternal privation of life of the punished. Their punishment is truly eternal. Ireland might have other arguments to bring to bear against this reading of Matthew 25:46a, but he cannot press his argument from the dual usage of αἰώνιος because I – and all the leaders of the Rethinking Hell team – accept it does mean ‘eternal’ both times it is used there.

The meaning of ἀπόλλυμι:

Ireland also takes aim at annihilationists over the word ἀπόλλυμι;

The same inconsistency appeared with apollumi, the Greek verb often translated “destroy” or “perish.” Annihilationists pressed the word into meaning “cessation of existence.” But apollumi does not require this meaning. The lost sheep was apollumi. The lost coin was apollumi. The prodigal son was apollumi. All three maintained existence. The word means ruin, loss, devastation, and separation. It never means extinction.

While it is true that ἀπόλλυμι is polysemous, it is also true that the way this verb is used in each context dictates which meaning is in view. For instance, though ἀπόλλυμι means ‘lost’ in Luke 15:24 and 32, it means ‘perish’ in Luke 15:17 where the prodigal son exclaims, ‘I perish (ἀπόλλυμι) here with hunger!’ I doubt Ireland would think that the son meant anything other than that he was close to death. Likewise, there are distinct differences in saying a coin is lost (Luke 15:8) and talking about losing a hand or eye (Matt 5:29-30). The coin is lost because it has been misplaced, while body parts are lost because they are severed from the body and so are destroyed. I doubt Ireland thinks Matthew 5:29-20 has Jesus saying eyes and hands could be misplaced. Context matters. Often when words like ἀπόλλυμι are used in one context, some of its possible nuances are not available because of that context. Ireland knows this.

Ireland would likely push back on the contention that even the prodigal son would not cease to exist when he died. This is obviously because he can say the son’s soul remains alive, though his body died. This is a view that many conditionalists also hold. This brings us to the much quoted statement from Matthew 10:28, which many think is explicit on this point. However, even granting Ireland’s point of view that Matthew 10:28a teaches humans have a soul that cannot be killed, Matthew 10:28b has in view a scenario where the soul is killed along with the body in Gehenna.

Glenn Peoples has an article called The Meaning of “Apollumi” in the Synoptic Gospels, in which he does a stellar job of showing that when ἀπόλλυμι is used in the Synoptics in a context where one person (or group of people) is said to ‘destroy’ another person, the idea in view is always that they intend to slay that person. Peoples provides several examples to demonstrate this. I think his point can be made even more clearly when we note that Matthew uses ἀπόλλυμ interchangeably with a standard verb for ‘kill’, ἀποκτείνω (apokteinō).

 

Matt 2:13, Herod is about … to destroy (ἀπόλλυμι) him;

Matt 12:14, Pharisees … conspired … to destroy (ἀπόλλυμι) him;

Matt 14:5 though he wanted to put him to death (ἀποκτείνω);

Matt 16:21 they will kill him (ἀποκτείνω), and he will be raised on the third day;

Matt 21:35 the tenants took his servants and beat one, killed (ἀποκτείνω) another;

Matt , 21:38 Come, let us kill (ἀποκτείνω) him;

Matt 21:39, they… killed (ἀποκτείνω) him;

Matt 21:41, He will put those wretches to a miserable death (ἀπόλλυμι);

Matt 22:6, the rest seized his servants… and killed (ἀποκτείνω) them;

Matt 22:7 The king … destroyed (ἀπόλλυμι) those murderers;

Matt 23:34, some of whom you will kill (ἀποκτείνω);

Matt 23:37, the city that kills (ἀποκτείνω) the prophets;

Matt 24:9, they will … put you to death (ἀποκτείνω);

Matt 26:3-4, the chief priests and the elders … and plotted together in order to arrest Jesus by stealth and kill him (ἀποκτείνω).

Matt 27:20 the chief priests and the elders persuaded the crowd to … destroy (ἀπόλλυμι) Jesus.

Ἀποκτείνω and ἀπόλλυμι are synonymous when used in the context of one person killing another. Matthew does not deviate from this at any point in his Gospel. This means Matthew used ἀπόλλυμι in Matthew 10:28b because he wanted to say the soul and body can be killed in Gehenna — and this is necessary, since Jesus just said to not fear those who cannot kill the soul. In these contexts, there is no semantic range of ἀπόλλυμι.5Peoples makes this point in his article linked above.

The question for Ireland, then, is what does he think happens to a person whose soul has been killed along with the body? Ireland, like most traditionalists, may simply not give an answer, though it is easy enough to do so. If the soul is killed along with the body. then there can be no conscious existence of the person. Conditionalists need not argue that ἀπόλλυμι means ‘to render non-existent’. We simply follow the exegesis, noting how Matthew normally uses ἀπόλλυμι in various contexts.

Conclusion:

Ireland employs standard arguments against conditionalist exegesis, claiming we apply our interpretive principles selectively. He may have interacted with a large number of annihilationists who offered numerous exegetical arguments. But his article shows his criticism of conditionalist exegesis is generally superficial and betrays his lack of awareness of what Chris Date or Glenn Peoples might argue when defending our view of hell. If Ireland ever happens to read this article, I hope that he is prompted to investigate the more robust arguments offered for conditionalism at Rethinking Hell.

 

References
1 I am no longer on Facebook, which removed my account on the mistaken conclusion that I have been impersonating the real Darren J. Clark.
2 Saint Augustine, The Complete Works of Saint Augustine, Kindle ed. (No publisher given, 2013), Kindle loc. 21975-21981.
3 Edit: Thomas Talbott makes this point in his

 

 

‘The whole point of such a parallel structure, so typical of Paul, is to identify a single group of individuals and to make two parallel statements about that single group of individuals, and the practical effect is therefore to eliminate any possibility of ambiguity. The very ones who came under condemnation, as a result of the first Adam’s act of disobedience, will eventually be brought to justification and life, as a result of the second Adam’s act of obedience.’

4 Jonathan Edwards, The Works of President Edwards: With a Memoir of His Life, (G. & C. & H. Carvill: 1830), 401.
5 Peoples makes this point in his article linked above.

Wood vs Paterson: the art of the smoke and mirror fallacy

Introduction

Last year, Dan Paterson from Questioning Christianity participated in an impromptu discussion on the final fate of the lost on the Premier Unbelievable? YouTube channel with a universalist named Jordan Wood. I am not going to review the entire discussion as Chris Date, Mark Corbett, and Dan Paterson have already done so here. Rather, I want to offer my thoughts on a single debate point discussed during the discussion. I will include a link to the timestamp of this exchange here. Specifically, one of the reasons Paterson gives for rejecting universalism is the biblical passages where ‘perishing is directly contrasted against the eternal life for those who do believe.’ Paterson offers 2 Peter 3:9 as an example.

The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.1Unless otherwise indicated, all quotes from the English Bible will be from the ESV.

He then cites John 3:16.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

Paterson is quite clear that he has in view the final fate of people.

The perishing is the thing that does not ultimately happen for those who trust in Jesus rather than being something that is subsumed within those who trust in Jesus.

I think it would be fruitful to quote Wood’s response to Paterson and then make a few comments.

I think the first thing is that … death and life seem to be similarly contrasting ideas or conceptions. And yet in Christ we have both. Christ dies, but he’s also resurrected. I wouldn’t say that because he’s resurrected, he didn’t die. He didn’t perish in the sense of death, the separation of body and soul or any of that. In fact, I think Paul insists that we must not only say that it’s that he died, but that because he died, therefore all died. Our death is so tied up into the death of the son of God that in a kind of bizarre sense this the death of the Son of God even makes our death not only possible but possibly remedial. So unless we want to say that Christ didn’t really die because death and life are two different fates. I would say Christ himself makes something possible that seems to our logical minds impossible which is exactly of course the claim of the resurrection from the dead anyway. So I think … in that sense you already have it integrated and not only does it just happen to be integrated but it’s necessarily integrated into the very heart of the gospel of the dead and resurrected Christ. The lamb who was slain but now and who can even be seen right in revelation as the lamb who was slain reigning on the throne. Well those right there are an intentional blending of two seemingly opposite things. And yet that’s the mystery. That’s the glory. That’s the power. The manifestation of God’s power is the bringing together the opposites.

I think I can show that this is a case of the smoke-and-mirrors fallacy. The smoke-and-mirrors fallacy occurs when a person gives a lot of information, but on closer examination, it turns out to be only the appearance of substance. It happens when most of what a person says does not properly address the argument of their opponent.2I do not intend to say or imply that Wood was dishonest, just that his response the appearance of rebutting Paterson’s argument when it does no such thing.

 

Preliminary thoughts

A preliminary issue to address is Wood’s admission that Christ died and resurrected. This is a mundane point to make, but it is necessary at this juncture, since Wood wants to counter Paterson’s contrast argument (‘perishing is directly contrasted against the eternal life for those who do believe’). Wood thinks that if he can show the Bible refers to believers being dead and alive at the same time, then he has an escape route from Paterson’s position. However, at the heart of NT (especially Paul’s) soteriology is the conviction that what happened to Christ (he died and was resurrected) is considered true of believers (we die and then are resurrected). Keeping this in mind will help prevent us from overreading statements from Paul that might at first blush seem to support Wood’s position.

A second preliminary point I wish to make concerns Wood’s argument that he would not say that, since Christ was resurrected, he did not die. I think this is a form of the motte-and-bailey fallacy. Normally, the motte and bailey fallacy happens when a person makes a hard-to-defend claim (the bailey) and, when challenged, retreats to an easier-to-defend claim (the motte). In this case, Wood immediately retreated to the motte: the statement that Christ’s resurrection does not mean he did not die. This is perhaps the easiest statement to defend, since everyone would agree with it. Christ’s resurrection doesn’t mean he did not die (it would be impossible to have a resurrection without dying). We can wholeheartedly agree with Wood that the resurrection of Christ cannot mean that he did not die, while also affirming without contradiction that there are two ultimate fates that humans face: death or life. This means that while much of Wood’s argument rests on his argument, it fails to support his rebuttal of Paterson’s statement. This, then, is a red herring that I hope does not lead people to think Wood has made some kind of telling blow against Paterson’s argument.

For the rest of this article, I will focus on three questions impinging on this debate. First, does the fact that believers have life and death in Christ offer a sufficient basis for Wood’s counterargument? Second, does the statement ‘therefore all died’ (c.f. 2 Cor 5:14) provide sufficient warrant to suppose that what happens to believers applies universally? Has Wood omitted discussing data that unequivocally shows Paterson is correct?

 

Understanding Paul’s prolepsis

There is not sufficient space in this argument to discuss NT soteriology in full. Since Wood quotes Paul (2 Cor 5:14), I will focus on some of Paul’s statements that relate to this subject. To properly understand Paul’s soteriology, one must come to grips with how he used prolepsis in discussing the implications of the union between believers and Christ. Prolepsis is a common device used in literature and on the screen that can be used flexibly.3Joseph Dear has written on this subject for Rethinking Hell here, here, and here. For instance, the movie Dead Man Walking (1995) is about a Catholic nun who helps a death-row inmate confront his past as his execution date approaches. Given the context, it would be ludicrous to suggest that simply because ‘Dead Man Walking’ is a reference to this man, then he is somehow pictured as being dead and alive at the same time.4Incidentally, ‘Dead man walking’ also has a dictionary entry, ‘a condemned man walking from his prison to prison cell to a place of execution’. An older example of prolepsis is found in John Keats’s poem Isabella (1820): ‘So the two brothers and their murdered man Rode past fair Florence’. This is the proleptic anticipation of the assassination of a living character.

Prolepsis is also a normal feature of biblical rhetoric. For instance, in Genesis 3:20, Eve is referred to as the mother of all living people before she has had any children. Obviously, people do not think this means Eve is a woman who has not yet given birth and has literally given birth to children. In Joshua 6:2, God tells Joshua that he has defeated Jericho before this happens. Obviously, people do not surmise that Joshua is simultaneously someone who has not yet won a battle and has literally won one. We understand such rhetorical devices as ways of speaking about a person as if a future event had already happened.

Paul’s soteriological reasons for using prolepsis concern the need to show that Christ’s death and resurrection have implications for believers in this age. Underlying this concern is Paul’s need to establish reasons why believers can and should cease sinning. One passage where this can be seen is Romans 5-6. In Romans 5, Paul affirms that death spread throughout the world because people sin. Just as Adam’s act of sin led to his death, so also acts of sin by other people are the reason they too die (c.f. Rom 1:32). The fact that people sin is why death spread throughout the world (Rom 5:12). There is more to note, though. Throughout Romans 5-6, Paul refers to death as a power that rules over those who sin (Rom 5:14, 17; 6:9), while sin reigns through death (Rom 5:20-21). Humans are enslaved to sin (Rom 6:6). At a theological level, Paul needs to show why believers are no longer enslaved to sin in this age.

Romans 6 is Paul’s answer to that problem. Romans 6 is concerned with answering the question: ‘How can we who died to sin still live in it?’ The answer to this question lies in Paul’s insistence that Christ’s death and resurrection are to be regarded as our death and resurrection (Rom 6:3-5). Our participation in his death and resurrection means sin (Rom 6:6-7, 12, 14) and death are no longer our masters (Rom 6:9, 11). The key point to note is that this is true only for believers, because Christ’s past death and resurrection are reckoned to be our past death and resurrection. This is similar to Ephesians 2:6, Paul goes so far as to say that God has already ‘seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus’. Any living believer can verify that they have not, in fact, ascended to sit beside Christ. Likewise, we can testify that we have, in fact, not yet died and been resurrected. This is how you can know that Paul was using the literary device of prolepsis.

There is a twist, though. Normally, with prolepsis, a writer speaks of a future event as if it has already happened to a person. When Paul uses this device in passages like Romans 6, he is saying Jesus’s past death and resurrection have implications for believers in the present and in the future. In the present, believers can reckon themselves to be freed from enslavement to sin and death (Rom 6:11). Christ’s death is reckoned to be our death, so we can consider ourselves to be dead to sin. A keyword here is ‘reckon’ (Rom 6:11).5The Greek word Paul uses is λογίζομαι (logizomai). There does not appear to be any special nuance to this word. In a context like Romans 6:11, λογίζομαι just means ‘reckon’ or ‘consider’. Paul’s use of this word shows that he did not think believers have actually died and been resurrected in this age, but that we can think and act as if this has already happened to us. This also explains why Paul could write as if he thought his audience had already been resurrected in one context (Eph 2:6, ‘made us alive together with Christ’) but write of our future resurrection in another context (1 Cor 15:20-24, ‘so also in Christ shall all be made alive’).

All of this helps us understand passages such as Romans 6:3-5:

Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be united with him in a resurrection like his.

There is a present-tense truth here, unpacked through the literary device of prolepsis. Though believers will die in the future, our participation in Christ’s death means Paul can talk as if believers have already died. The sense of death here is the same as what we mean when we say Christ died. It is the loss of life. We can consider ourselves no longer enslaved to sin because Christ’s loss of life on the cross is counted as if believers had actually died. This is a different sense of dying we see in Ephesians, where it more refers to a lifestyle that makes sinners as if they are dead to God. Likewise, being able to ‘walk in newness of life’ means living a lifestyle that is congruent with what God wants believers to live. This is a different sense of living that is expressed in Romans 6:5, where Paul refers to the future resurrection of believers (‘we shall certainly be united with him in a resurrection like his’). All of this means believers are never both alive and dead in the same sense at the same time.6I acknowledge Willian Tanksley for bringing this truth to my attention. Just as with Christ, the actual death and resurrection of believers are sequential events in time. Christ was never dead and alive at the same time, and this is the same for believers. This being so, Wood contention that there is ‘an intentional blending of two seemingly opposite things’ is an inaccurate oversimplification of Paul’s thought. It means Wood has not provided a legitimate counter-example to Paterson’s argument.

 

Does 2 Corinthians 5:14 support Wood’s argument?

If Wood can show that Paul was a universalist, then he would have given good reason to think that Paterson was incorrect in saying there are two possible fates in store for people. However, Wood seemingly smuggles in an implied argument from the language of ‘all’.

I think Paul insists that we must not only say that it’s that he died, but that because he died, therefore all died.

Wood has 2 Corinthians 5:14 in mind.

For the love of Christ controls us, because we have concluded this: that one has died for all, therefore all have died.

Wood does not explicitly argue that this is evidence that everyone who has ever lived will eventually be saved, but it is patently clear that this is his argument. The idea is that if Paul thought all humanity would eventually be saved because all humans have died because Christ died for all humans, then what Paul says about his believing audience in other contexts is applicable to every person who has ever lived. Since this is an implied argument, Wood’s audience is left to infer that his argument hangs on the contention that ‘all’ (πᾶς, pas) is used absolutely, so Paul had all humans in view.

I would contend that the evidence points to another conclusion. In his book The Use of Πᾶς in the New Testament, J. William Johnston discusses his methodology for analyzing the use of πᾶς. Johnstone outlines two aspects of his methodology. First, there are syntactical considerations. Broadly speaking, syntactical considerations refer to how the combination of πᾶς with other words affects the sense of this word.7Johnstone gives the example of the use of the article in the following phrase, πᾶσα ἡ πόλις (Matt 8:34) which can be contrasted with the anarthrous phrase πᾶσα πόλις (Matt 12:25). In Matthew 8:34, the use of the article (, ) dictates that πᾶς has the sense of ‘whole’ (πᾶσα ἡ πόλις = ‘the whole city’). In Matthew 12:25 could mean πᾶς has the sense of ‘every’ (πᾶσα πόλις = ‘every city’). Greek nouns can be definite even without the use of the article so Matthew 12:25 could possibly be regarded as having an implied article so ‘the whole city’ is in view. In effect, this just illustrates the way the use of the article can affect the sense of πᾶς. J. William Johnston, The Use of Πᾶς in the New Testament, (Peter Lang Publishing: 2004), 34. Second, there are contextual considerations. This concerns how literary context affects the scope of πᾶς. Johnstone explains it this way,

At another level, the scope of πᾶς is often further qualified by the context in which it is found. The sense suggested by the syntax of πᾶς may often be modified by semantic and contextual features that must be considered in making a final determination of meaning.8Ibid., 34.

In this respect, πᾶς is similar to the English word ‘all’, since both are often modified by context. For instance, if I were talking about children in the schoolyard and the sudden onset of a violent storm, I might go on to say ‘all are safe’. In this context, I do not mean all people everywhere are safe. I mean, all the children who were in the schoolyard are safe. An example from Paul may be found in 1 Corinthians 9:20-22:

To the Jews I became as a Jew, in order to win Jews. To those under the law I became as one under the law (though not being myself under the law) that I might win those under the law. To those outside the law I became as one outside the law (not being outside the law of God but under the law of Christ) that I might win those outside the law. To the weak I became weak, that I might win the weak. I have become all things to all people, that by all means I might save some.

When Paul wrote ‘I have become all things (τοῖς πᾶσιν) to all people’, he was referring to the specific examples he had just mentioned. This and the previous scenario of the use of the English word ‘all’ are instances when someone refers back to a previous subject in a way that limits the scope of who is included in the ‘all’.

In the preceding context of 2 Corinthians 5:14 we find that Paul uses ‘we’ language: ‘we have this treasure in jars of clay’ (2 Cor 4:7), ‘We are afflicted in every way’ (4:8), ‘but not destroyed’ (4:9), ‘the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our bodies’, ‘always carrying9Paul uses the present active plural participle, περιφέροντες, which modifies ἔχομεν (‘we have’) from the beginning of 2 Corinthians 4:7. in the body the death of Jesus, the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our bodies’ (4:10), ‘we who live … the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our mortal flesh’ (4:11), ‘we have the same spirit of faith … we also believe’ (4:13), ‘he who raised the Lord Jesus will raise us also with Jesus and bring us with you10The word ‘you’ is plural here. into his presence (4:14), ‘we have a building from God’ (5:1), ‘we would be further clothed, so that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life’ (5:4), ‘we walk by faith, not by sight’ (5:7), and ‘the love of Christ controls us’ (5:14). The repetition of this ‘we’ language is one indicator that Paul primarily has in mind what is true for his believing audience.

Furthermore, in 2 Corinthians 4:11, he speaks of his audience as οἱ ζῶντες (‘those who live’). In 2 Corinthians 4:9, he says these people are οὐκ ἀπολλύμενοι (‘not destroyed’). We can compare this to how he references unbelievers as τοῖς ἀπολλυμένοις ‘those who are perishing’ (2 Cor 4:3). The participles ἀπολλύμενοι and ἀπολλυμένοις are from the much-debated word for ‘destroy’, ἀπόλλυμι. Setting aside the question of what ἀπόλλυμι may mean in this context, it can be seen that Paul uses οἱ ζῶντες to refer to people who already believe. He is not using it for every person who has lived on earth. This is important to note because Paul’s statement in 2 Corinthians 5:14 that ‘one has died for all, therefore all have died’ is part of a broader parallel statement spanning v14b to v15:

one has died for all

therefore all have died;

he died for all

that those who live (οἱ ζῶντες) might no longer live for themselves

Note how Paul used οἱ ζῶντες in the second part of this statement. As noted above, the designation οἱ ζῶντες is how Paul refers to those who already believe, as opposed to unbelievers. This and Paul’s use of ‘we’ language is exactly the same kind of contextual information seen in my schoolyard analogy. This information shows that ‘died for all’ and ‘all have died’ are not instances in which Paul intended to use πᾶς (‘all’) in its absolute sense.

Another line of evidence that supports this conclusion is that Paul uses the aorist tense with ‘have died’ (v14b). Aorist indicative verbs, such as the one Paul uses, generally refer to ‘past time with reference to the time of speaking’.11Daniel B. Wallace, Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics: An exegetical syntax of the New Testament, (Zondervan: 1996), 555. This makes perfect sense, where he is referring to people who have already come to a saving faith in Christ. They have believed, and so they can be said to have died because they have participated in his death and resurrection. Paul spells this out in some detail in Romans 6. On the other hand, Paul refers to unbelievers as those who were still perishing (2 Cor 4:3) and are ‘dead in the trespasses and sins’ (Eph 2:1). They are people who do not believe and so remain slaves to sin and death. It would, then, be theologically absurd to say that these people have already died as if they have already participated in Christ’s death.

Like many universalists, Wood has quoted 2 Corinthians 5:14 as if that were all he needed to show that Paul was a universalist. I have shown from the context of this verse that Paul was not using πᾶς (‘all’) absolutely. If Wood (and any other universalist reading this article) continues to maintain that ‘all died’ must be taken absolutely, then I invite him to explain how the context of the verse supports the universalist conclusion. Simply replying on the word πᾶς (‘all’) alone is not enough to win the debate.

 

Has Wood omitted discussing data that shows Paterson is correct?

The answer to this is yes.

In Romans 6:19-22, Paul states that his believing audience had been destined to suffer death but were now destined to eternal life:

For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. But what fruit were you getting at that time from the things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the fruit you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life.

This is exactly the kind of contrast that Paterson had in mind, and it completely undermines Wood’s argument. Notice that Paul contrasts the outcome of the path his believing audience was on with the outcome of the path they are on now. Though ‘fruit’ can be used in a variety of ways in the Bible, it was also ‘a common metaphor for the outcome of one’s behavior’.12Frank Thielman & Clinton Arnold, Romans, (Zondervan Academic: 2018), no page given, available at: https://www.perlego.com/book/581251, (Accessed: 2 January 2026); Richard Longenecker, The Epistle to the Romans, (William. B. Eerdmans Publishing: 2016), 136. Examples of this usage of the motif can be found in Psalm 104:13,13‘From your lofty abode you water the mountains; the earth is satisfied with the fruit of your work.’ Jeremiah 6:19;14Hear, O earth; behold, I am bringing disaster upon this people, the fruit of their devices, because they have not paid attention to my words; and as for my law, they have rejected it. 17:10;15‘I the Lord search the heart and test the mind, to give every man according to his ways, according to the fruit of his deeds.’ LXX Prov 11:30,16From the fruit of righteousness grows a tree of life, but souls of the lawbreakers are removed before their time. (The Lexham English Septuagint) and Matthew 7:15-18.17Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will recognize them by their fruits. Frank Thielman and Clinton Arnold point to an example in secular Greek literature.18“In every dealing there is nothing worse than bad companions,” says Eteocles in Aeschylus’s play, Seven Against Thebes (600–601), “let that bitter fruit [καρπός] never be plucked. The field of folly yields death as its harvest [θάνατον ἐκκαρπίζεται].’ Frank Thielman & Clinton Arnold, Romans, no page given.

I would also suggest that Paul had Genesis 3 in mind when writing Romans 6:21-22. Paul has already stated that sin and death came into this world through Adam, with subsequent generations going on to sin and die (Rom 5:12, 14-15a, 17). He clearly had been reflecting on the early part of Genesis when composing this section of Romans. We can also note that in the early part of Genesis 3, Eve is convinced by a crafty talking serpent to eat the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, an act that God had previously forbidden (Gen 2:17), as this would cause those who ate that fruit to die.19I am well aware of the debate over whether the clause ‘in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die’ refers to separation from God, ordinary death, or both. Chris Date has produced a short video here that well summarizes the official Rethinking Hell view on that subject. I do not intend to speak into that debate here as the argument I will make below stands regardless of whether death is viewed as the cessation of life or as separation from God. In LXX Genesis 3:2-6, the word καρπός (karpos) is used to refer to the fruit of the tree of knowledge. The consequence of eating from the forbidden tree includes death. This is seen when God tells Adam that he will return to dust (Gen 3:19). In this context, the return to dust is presented as a reversal of the creation of Adam (v19, ‘…you return to the ground … out of it you were taken … you are dust … to dust you shall return’). In Genesis’s own terms, death is the reversal of the creation of humans. It is ‘decreation’ of the person.20This is true regardless of whether Genesis 3 also presents death as separation from God. This ‘decreation’ of Adam and Eve would eventually happen precisely because they are denied access to the fruit of the Tree of Life when they were expelled from Eden to ensure they would not live forever (Gen 3:22). Adam did end up living an extremely long time (Gen 5:5). As long as this life was, it still had an end.

The Hebrew word translated as ‘forever’,ʿôlām, is heavily debated. I do not intend to enter that debate here. John Walton summarizes his study of the OT use of ʿôlām.

Careful study of the term that the NIV translates “forever” has demonstrated that it is not an abstract term, suggesting infinity or eternity per se, but characterizes something as being open-ended, with no anticipated ending built in. It is better translated “perpetual life,” suggesting that the fruit constantly counteracts any aging.21John H. Walton, Genesis (Zondervan Academic: 2001),170.

Even if death in Genesis is presented as separation from God, it is still true that a result of eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil was the expulsion of Adam and Eve from Eden. This meant they would be able to eat the fruit of the tree of life and so would not live perpetually. They would go on to die an ordinary death. In my estimation, this is the most likely backdrop for Paul’s thought in Romans 6:21-22, which is part of a passage where he had been talking about the actual death of Christ being counted as the actual death of believers. That backdrop indicates that Paul had ordinary death in mind with ‘For the end of those things is death’ (Rom 6:21) and the promise that believers will be alive forever with ‘eternal life’ (Rom 6:22).

Another piece of evidence for my reading of Romans 6:21-22 is Paul’s use of the noun τέλος (telos). Τέλος is polysemous. However, when used with reference to the goal, end, completion, or consummation of something, it emphasizes the outcome. At times, it is context that dictates which nuance of τέλος is in view. Still, often it is the use of this noun in combination with other words that gives the word its sense.22See BDAG and BrillDAG, “τέλος”, for examples. This is something I wish to note because there is always the temptation to cherry-pick lexical glosses when debating the meaning of passages.

There is a particular usage of τέλος that is relevant for our discussion of Romans 6:21-22. When used with words capable of taking the genitive case,23For a brief introduction to the use of the case system in Greek see here. τέλος refers to the final end of something. For instance, Appian uses τέλος in this way when writing about how Hannibal’s invasion of Italy came to an ‘end’ (τέλος) (The Hannibalic War 61).24‘When Hannibal had departed from Italy the Senate pardoned all the Italian peoples who had sided with him, and voted a general amnesty except as to the Bruttians, who remained most zealous for him to the end. From these they took away a considerable part of their land, also their arms, if there were any that Hannibal had not taken. They were also forbidden to be enrolled in the military forces thereafter, as being no longer free persons, and they were required to attend as servants upon the consuls and praetors who went about inspecting the affairs of government and the public works of the provinces. Such was the end (τέλος) of Hannibal’s invasion of Italy.’ Hannibal had left Italy, and so the invasion had ended. In LXX Wisdom of Sol 14:14, we are told that there will be a speedy ‘end’ (τέλος) to idols. Several Greek lexicons note instances in Greek literature when τέλος was used with nouns in the genitive case to refer to a ​​​​​​person’s death. For instance, BrillDAG quotes Homer’s use of τέλος in Iliad 3.309, Ζεύς … οἶδε … ὁπποτέρῳ θανάτοιο τέλος πεπρωμένον ἐστίν Zeus, (trans., ‘Zeus … knows for which of the two death is fated’), and Hesiod’s use of the word in Works and Days 166, τοὺς μέν θανάτου τέλος ἀμφεκάλυψε, (trans., ‘the fate of death covered some of them’).25BrillDAG, “τέλος.” LSJ quotes Xenophon’s use of τέλος in Cyropaedia 8.7.6 (ἐμοὶ μὲν τοῦ βίου τὸ τέλος ἤδη πάρεστιν, trans. ‘the end of my life is now at hand’) and Demosthenes’s use of that noun in Against Eubulides 57.27 (πᾶσίν ἐστιν ἀνθρώποις τέλος τοῦ βίου θάνατος, trans. “Yet for all men the end of life is death”). BrillDAG notes Sophocles use of τέλος in this way in Oedipus at Colonus 1530 (χὤταν εἰς τέλος τοῦ ζῆν ἀφικνῇ, tran. ‘when you reach the end of life’.26BrillDAG, “τέλος.”

I have found other examples. In Against Apion 2.144, Josephus wrote of Apion dying in torment due to an infection caused by an ulcer on a sensitive part of his body: τοῦτο μὲν Ἀπίωνι τοῦ βίου τὸ τέλος (“And this was the end of Apion’s life”). Likewise, ordinary death is in view in LXX Ecclesiastes 7:3.

It is better to go to the house of sorrow than to go to the house of drinking, as this is the end of every person, and the one who lives shall give a good thing into his heart.27LES, 2nd ed.

The phrase ‘this is the end of everyone’ renders τοῦτο τέλος παντὸς τοῦ ἀνθρώπου. It is a statement that everyone inevitably dies. In Hebrews 7:3, Melchizedek is presented as one who will not die (μήτε ἀρχὴν ἡμερῶν μήτε ζωῆς τέλος ἔχων, ‘having neither beginning of days nor end of life’).

The point is, the use of τέλος with a word capable of taking the genitive case was a way of talking about the ordinary death of a person. It is highly likely he chose to use τέλος with a demonstrative pronoun in the genitive case in verse 21 because it was a normal way of referring to the death of someone. Moreover, it is a way of referring to a person’s ultimate fate.

This second aspect of my point means my argument in response to Wood does not stand or fall on the definition of ‘death’. Even if death refers to something like separation from God, it is still the ultimate fate of the person who sins. Death is still the ultimate outcome of a life of sin. Paul also sets this in direct contrast with the ultimate fate of eternal life (v23), the final outcome of a life of sanctification. This is precisely the contrast that Paterson had in mind in his discussion with Wood.

Now, Wood might reply that Paul was addressing people who had successfully changed from a trajectory that would end in their ultimate death to one that would end in their possessing eternal life. He would be correct. However, Paul is quite clear in Philippians 3:19 that the final fate of the enemies of the cross is their destruction. The exact phraseology Paul uses is ὧν τὸ τέλος ἀπώλεια. The copula ἐστὶν (‘is’) is implied, and the phrase is to be regarded as an equative clause. 28Stanley Porter and David Yoon, Romans: A Handbook on the Greek Text, (Baylor University Press: 2023), 366. This is set in direct contract with Paul’s comments about his believing audience. Specifically, Paul encourages his believing audience by affirming that Christ ‘will transform our lowly body to be like his glorious body’ (Phil 3:21). In 1 Corinthians 15:51-57, Paul spells this out further, saying that believers will be transformed with imperishable, incorruptible bodies. That is, for Paul, the transformation of our bodies is when we will be made immortal. So, for Paul, there will be some whose ultimate fate is their destruction and some who will be made immortal on their resurrection. So when Paul states in Romans 6:21-22 that the final outcome of sin is death and the final outcome of the sanctification of believers is eternal life, he believed that some would end up dead (note also Romans 1:32 and 6:16).

 

Conclusion:

It is now clear that Wood failed to rebut Paterson’s point that the Bible teaches there are contrasting fates for believers and unbelievers. Aside from the fact that Wood ignores biblical data that supports Paterson’s point of view, his claim that there ‘are an intentional blending of two seemingly opposite things’ is vague and does not accurately reflect Paul’s soteriology. Whatever integration of death and life for believers one might find in Paul’s thought, it is clear that the Apostle did not think that believers are simultaneously dead and alive. This means there is no integration of opposites in Paul, as Wood implies. Furthermore, Wood’s reliance on 2 Corinthians 5:14 without explanatory support has been shown to fail to support his point of view at all.

All in all, Wood had a lot to say, but it only gave the appearance that he had engaged with Paterson’s argument. Wood’s response sounds good, but it lacks substance. He offered nothing that effectively counters the Bible’s teaching that there are contrasting final fates for believers and unbelievers. This was merely an instance in which the smoke-and-mirrors fallacy was used to sidestep a difficult argument.

 

References
1 Unless otherwise indicated, all quotes from the English Bible will be from the ESV.
2 I do not intend to say or imply that Wood was dishonest, just that his response the appearance of rebutting Paterson’s argument when it does no such thing.
3 Joseph Dear has written on this subject for Rethinking Hell here, here, and here.
4 Incidentally, ‘Dead man walking’ also has a dictionary entry, ‘a condemned man walking from his prison to prison cell to a place of execution’.
5 The Greek word Paul uses is λογίζομαι (logizomai). There does not appear to be any special nuance to this word. In a context like Romans 6:11, λογίζομαι just means ‘reckon’ or ‘consider’.
6 I acknowledge Willian Tanksley for bringing this truth to my attention.
7 Johnstone gives the example of the use of the article in the following phrase, πᾶσα ἡ πόλις (Matt 8:34) which can be contrasted with the anarthrous phrase πᾶσα πόλις (Matt 12:25). In Matthew 8:34, the use of the article (, ) dictates that πᾶς has the sense of ‘whole’ (πᾶσα ἡ πόλις = ‘the whole city’). In Matthew 12:25 could mean πᾶς has the sense of ‘every’ (πᾶσα πόλις = ‘every city’). Greek nouns can be definite even without the use of the article so Matthew 12:25 could possibly be regarded as having an implied article so ‘the whole city’ is in view. In effect, this just illustrates the way the use of the article can affect the sense of πᾶς. J. William Johnston, The Use of Πᾶς in the New Testament, (Peter Lang Publishing: 2004), 34.
8 Ibid., 34.
9 Paul uses the present active plural participle, περιφέροντες, which modifies ἔχομεν (‘we have’) from the beginning of 2 Corinthians 4:7.
10 The word ‘you’ is plural here.
11 Daniel B. Wallace, Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics: An exegetical syntax of the New Testament, (Zondervan: 1996), 555.
12 Frank Thielman & Clinton Arnold, Romans, (Zondervan Academic: 2018), no page given, available at: https://www.perlego.com/book/581251, (Accessed: 2 January 2026); Richard Longenecker, The Epistle to the Romans, (William. B. Eerdmans Publishing: 2016), 136.
13 ‘From your lofty abode you water the mountains; the earth is satisfied with the fruit of your work.’
14 Hear, O earth; behold, I am bringing disaster upon this people, the fruit of their devices, because they have not paid attention to my words; and as for my law, they have rejected it.
15 ‘I the Lord search the heart and test the mind, to give every man according to his ways, according to the fruit of his deeds.’
16 From the fruit of righteousness grows a tree of life, but souls of the lawbreakers are removed before their time. (The Lexham English Septuagint)
17 Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will recognize them by their fruits.
18 “In every dealing there is nothing worse than bad companions,” says Eteocles in Aeschylus’s play, Seven Against Thebes (600–601), “let that bitter fruit [καρπός] never be plucked. The field of folly yields death as its harvest [θάνατον ἐκκαρπίζεται].’ Frank Thielman & Clinton Arnold, Romans, no page given.
19 I am well aware of the debate over whether the clause ‘in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die’ refers to separation from God, ordinary death, or both. Chris Date has produced a short video here that well summarizes the official Rethinking Hell view on that subject. I do not intend to speak into that debate here as the argument I will make below stands regardless of whether death is viewed as the cessation of life or as separation from God.
20 This is true regardless of whether Genesis 3 also presents death as separation from God.
21 John H. Walton, Genesis (Zondervan Academic: 2001),170.
22 See BDAG and BrillDAG, “τέλος”, for examples.
23 For a brief introduction to the use of the case system in Greek see here.
24 ‘When Hannibal had departed from Italy the Senate pardoned all the Italian peoples who had sided with him, and voted a general amnesty except as to the Bruttians, who remained most zealous for him to the end. From these they took away a considerable part of their land, also their arms, if there were any that Hannibal had not taken. They were also forbidden to be enrolled in the military forces thereafter, as being no longer free persons, and they were required to attend as servants upon the consuls and praetors who went about inspecting the affairs of government and the public works of the provinces. Such was the end (τέλος) of Hannibal’s invasion of Italy.’
25 BrillDAG, “τέλος.”
26 BrillDAG, “τέλος.”
27 LES, 2nd ed.
28 Stanley Porter and David Yoon, Romans: A Handbook on the Greek Text, (Baylor University Press: 2023), 366.

Why I remain unconvinced by Gavin Ortlund’s rejection of conditionalism

Gavin Ortlund is one of my favorite Christian apologists. He is kind in his critique of those with whom he disagrees. His YouTube channel is replete with irenic, thoughtful, and knowledgeable interaction with a range of people with whom he disagrees. Recently, Ortlund published a video on his YouTube channel entitled Annihilationism: Why I am not convinced.1While Ortlund uses the word annihilationism, I prefer the word conditionalism to describe my view of the final fate of the lost. In this video he seeks to steelman conditionalism and then offers reasons why he has not adopted this view of hell. There is already a lengthy response video available by RH called Responding (again) to Gavin Ortlund. In this article, I do not intend to relitigate all that was said in that video. Instead, I would like to simply outline why Ortlund failed to convince me that his rejection of conditionalism is merited.

It is safe to say that Ortlund holds to C. S. Lewis’s view of hell. This version of traditionalism emphasizes that hell should be seen in terms of self-exile as much as it entails divine judgment on unrepentant sinners. As such, ‘the judgment of hell is not an arbitrary one’.2Gavin R. Ortlund, ‘A Losing Battle Against Reality: C. S. Lewis On The Nature And Necessity Of Hell’, in Bibliotheca Sacra, 176:703 (Jul 2019): 342. Hell is to be seen as the ‘logical implication of the related doctrines of God and sin’.3Ibid., 327. God is ‘primal and necessary being’,4Ibid., 333. and so ‘union with that Nature is bliss and separation is horror’.5Ibid, 334. This is the basis for the conclusion that ‘hell is simply being banished from God’s presence and favor’.6Ibid., 334. Hell is also seen as a logical implication of human sin. Sin is defined as the refusal to submit to God. For Lewis (and Ortlund), human evil is to be seen as a trajectory where those who freely reject God will continue on that path, so hell is the culmination of a path of opposition to God. God will judge people according to their sins, and their rejection of God is the rationale for why they are punished. This is how Ortlund comes to the conclusion that God’s punishment of people eternally is not arbitrary or cruel. Ortlund frequently states that those who end up in hell will eternally be miserable, but he rejects the notion that hell is a torture chamber.7Joseph Dear has already published articles that directly and indirectly interact with Ortlund’s view. You can read his articles here and here. It is unclear whether Ortlund thinks those in hell will experience torture of some sort, but he does hold that hell will be awful for them.

In Annihilationism: Why I am not convinced, Ortlund gives several reasons why he remains unconvinced that conditionalism is the biblical view of hell. The first reason he gives for his skepticism is that he does not think that conditionalism coheres with all the passages relevant in the hell debate. Ortlund later identifies Revelation 14:9-11; 20:10, and 22:15 as the main verses that he thinks cannot be explained by conditionalists. The language Ortlund thinks tips the scale in favor of ECT is ‘they have no rest, day or night’ in Revelation 14:11, for he thinks this does not sound like people who cease to exist in hell. He also points to ‘they will be tormented day and night forever and ever’. Later on, Ortlund discusses some arguments that might be offered in response to his view. He briefly discusses some arguments made in response to his position on these verses, but does not address some of the stronger arguments offered by conditionalists. Due to the limited scope of this article, I will focus on showing how those stronger arguments work to show that Revelation 14:11 and 20:10 are no obstacle to conditionalism.8Readers can watch Ortlund’s video and make their own assessment of his response to the arguments he does discuss.

Perhaps the weakest argument from Ortlund is his appeal to Revelation 22:15. Unfortunately, Ortlund has missed that Revelation 22:6-21 is the epilogue to the book and so is not part of the vision itself.9Robert H. Mounce, The Book of Revelation, Kindle ed., (William. B. Eerdmans: 1997), Kindle loc., 8271; George Eldon Ladd, A Commentary on the Revelation of John, (William B. Eerdmans: 1972), 289; G. K. Beale, The Book of Revelation: A Commentary on the Greek Text, (William B. Eerdmans: 1999), 1122; Grant R. Osborne, Revelation, Kindle ed. (Baker Publishing Group: 2012), Kindle loc., 17243 The function of the epilogue is described by Beale,

The epilogue now shows clearly that the purpose of the book is to induce holy obedience among God’s people so that they may receive the reward of salvation.10Beale, The Book of Revelation,, 1122.

Revelation 22:14-15 is a general statement issued from a perspective prior to the coming of Christ (c.f. Rev 22:12). It is a statement referring to believers and unbelievers generally. Verse 15 says nothing about the wicked other than the fact that they are not in the city with the righteous. There is no clarification that the wicked will be alive to experience eternal torment and conditionalists can just as easily say that the wicked are in the place where they will be killed. This verse is not evidence for Ortlund’s view of hell.

With respect to the phrase ‘they have no rest, day or night’ in Revelation 14:11, I contend that Ortlund has missed two strong arguments from conditionalists. The first strong argument is put forward by Ralph Bowles in his Does Revelation 14: 11 Teach Eternal Torment? Examining a Proof-text on Hell, where he presents the case that the structure of Revelation 14:9-11 consists of a chiasm. A chiasm ‘is a literary device in which a sequence of ideas is presented and then repeated in reverse order’. The chiasm looks like this.

9 And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice,

–(A) “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand,

—-(B) he also will drink the wine of God’s wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger

——(C) he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.

——(Ci) And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever

—-(Bi) they have no rest, day or night

–(Ai) these worshipers of the beast and its image, if anyone receives the mark of its name.”

This is the ESV, but I have made an adjustment at line Ai so it reads ‘if anyone’ instead of ‘and whoever’. This is warranted on the basis that the εἴ τις clause in Ai (‘if anyone receives’) is syntactically and grammatically identical to the εἴ τις clause in line A (‘If anyone worships’). If there is a chiasm in this passage,11I will be defending Bowles’s thesis that Revelation 14:9-11 has a chiasm in another article I am currently writing. then the statement about the ongoing lack of rest does not clarify the meaning of ‘the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever’. Rather, the reference to continual lack of rest refers ‘to the intense experience of the judgement as it happens; it’s a full-strength outpouring of God’s wrath that leaves no rest or break while it is unfolding’.12Ralph Bowles, Does Revelation 14: 11 Teach Eternal Torment? Examining a Proof-text on Hell, 28.

Another approach to Revelation 14:9-11 is taken by Chris Date and William Tanksley in a Rethinking Hell presentation called Hell and the Book of Revelation. Date and Tanksley focus on the way that visions and dreams can be interpreted in a passage. In his presentation of this argument, Date often begins with a discussion of Joseph’s interpretation of the dreams of others in Genesis 40-41. For instance, Date points out that Joseph interprets dreams involving three vine branches (Gen 40:9-11) or three baskets (Gen 40:16-17) as having to do with three days (Gen 40:12, 18). He also points out that Joseph interprets Pharaoh’s dream of seven cows and seven ears of a plant (Gen 41:1-7) as having to do with seven years of good harvest and seven years of famine (Gen 41:25-31).

Brian J. Tabb has identified ways in which Revelation routinely interprets its visions. Some of the examples he identifies are as follows: seven lampstands are interpreted to be seven churches (Rev 1:19-20), seven lamps are interpreted to be seven spirits of God (Rev 4:5), seven horns and with seven eyes are interpreted to be seven spirits of God (Rev 5:6), golden bowls are interpreted to be the prayers of the saints (Rev 5:8), two olive trees and lampstands are interpreted as the two witnesses (Rev 11:3-4), the 144,000 are interpreted to be undefiled followers of the Lamb (Rev 14:3-4), and fine linen is interpreted to be the righteous deeds of the saints (Rev 19:8).13This is from page 2276 of Zondervans -NIV Biblical Theology Study Bible- Revelation Brian J. Tabb Bethlehem College & Seminary PhD, London School of Theology – Zondervan. The NIV Zondervan Study Bible, eBook: Built on the Truth of Scripture and Centered on the Gospel Message . Zondervan. Kindle Edition. There is no doubt that Revelation incorporates interpreted imagery throughout the work.

Date and Tanksley adopt a whole picture approach to interpreting Revelation 14:9-11 and 20:10. This means that they agree that the symbolism as a whole depicts a final punishment of eternal torment (even though the individual passages might not exactly all show that), but each of the passages is individually interpreted to mean a miserable end rather than endless misery. For example, although the Beast is seen as tormented forever in Rev 20:10, the interpreting angel says it will go to its destruction (Rev 17:8, 11). Likewise, elements of Revelation 14:9-11 (the cup of wrath, torment, and rising smoke, Rev. 18:6-7, 9-10; 19:3, c.f. 16:19) are applied to Babylon, who is said to be found no more once she has been destroyed. Given the use of the elements of “the cup of wrath,” “torment,” and “rising smoke” refer to the completed and total destruction of Babylon, it follows that the use of the same elements in Revelation 14:9-11 should communicate the same point. Date and Tanksley also point to the statement ‘This is the second death, the lake of fire’ in Revelation 20:14 (c.f. Rev.21:8), arguing that this is an interpretive note clarifying that the imagery in Revelation depicting eternal torment means those who are punished by fire and sulfur will die a second time. If so, this interpretive note serves to clarify that Revelation 14:9-11 also means those punished by fire and sulfur will die as a result.

There is more that could be said in defense of the thesis put forward by Bowles and the thesis offered by Date and Tanksley, but the main point I wish to make at this juncture is that neither thesis contests the usual meaning of the language of torment. In both cases, the usual meanings of the verb βασανίζω (basanizō, Rev. 14:10, 20:10) and the noun βασανισμός (basanismos, Rev. 14:11) as having to do with torture/torment are not contested. This is because both approaches to the hell texts in Revelation are fundamentally focused on the prima facie meaning of the words in the text they are discussing.

In contrast, though Ortlund states that he cannot get past the use of the language of torment in Revelation 14:9-11 and 20:10, his own version of ECT does not at all fit with that language. To be sure, Ortlund does conceive of hell as being a horror for those who end up there, but this is a result of ‘being banished from God’s presence and favor’. This is a far cry from the imagery in Revelation 14:9-11 and 20:10, where fire and sulfur are the means of punishment causing the physical torment of those who are being punished, and that torment is supervised by the Lamb. One might respond by pointing out that the verb βασανίζω could be used with reference to the battering of a boat by a storm (Matt 14:24; Mark 6:48), great mental distress (2 Pet 2:8), pain resulting from disease (Mat 8:6), or pain in childbirth (Rev 12:2) elsewhere in the NT. However, the idea is still that the person experiences great pain and suffering. In contexts where someone causes another extreme pain, especially through a medium like fire, it is difficult to see how this does not amount to torture. This is likely why William Mounce defines βασανίζω in terms of physical torture when discussing its use in Revelation 14 and 20.

But basanizō can also denote the retributive judgments on impenitent sinners at the close of this age (Rev. 9:5; 11:10) as well as the doom that awaits those who worship the beast and his image (14:10). John also uses this term to describe the horrendous torture in the lake of burning sulphur that awaits Satan and his agents at the end of history (20:10)—a torment that will last “day and night for ever and ever.” Such a horrific future for the unbeiever (sic.) should serve as a catalyst for the Christian to preach the gospel. That torment will be real and the only hope to avoid it is Christ.14William D. Mounce, Mounce’s Complete Expository Dictionary of Old & New Testament Words (Zondervan: 2006), 737.

Furthermore, the noun βασανισμός (Rev 14:11) does not have the same range of meaning as its cognate verb, βασανίζω. There is little evidence of the use of βασανισμός prior to the NT, but it is used in 4 Maccabees 9:6 and 11:2, where it unequivocally refers to torture. Thus, highly regarded lexica of NT Greek define the word in terms of torture.15‘‘the severe pain experienced through torture, torment’, William Arndt et al., A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2000), 168; ‘βᾰσᾰνισμός -οῦ, ὁ βασανίζω examination, torture, torment’, Franco Montanari, The Brill Dictionary of Ancient Greek, ed. Madeleine Goh and Chad Schroeder (Leiden; Boston: Brill, 2015); ‘severe pain associated with torture and torment’, Johannes P. Louw and Eugene Albert Nida, Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament: Based on Semantic Domains (New York: United Bible Societies, 1996), 286.

One caveat is required at this juncture. I do not intend to imply that the Biblical authors intended to convey the idea of sadistic torture, as is the case in 4 Maccabees. If this is all that Ortlund rejects, then I would have less reason to dispute his argument. Having said that, it is inescapable that both βασανίζω and βασανισμός as they are used in Revelation 14:9-11 and 20:10 have in view the idea that intense pain is being inflicted on those being punished. This is one reason why Ortlund’s view of hell does not cohere well with the traditionalist proof texts.

Another reason for this disjuncture between Ortlund’s view of hell and the traditionalist proof texts has to do with how the scene in Revelation 14:9-11 has the torment of the Beast worshippers as taking place in the presence of the Lamb and his angels. That is, the punishment takes place in the throne room, which can hardly be said to fit with the notion of banishment that forms a central role in Ortlund’s own defence of traditionalism. I have no doubt that Ortlund will be able to think of ways to synthesize this scene with other biblical data on the final fate of the lost, to show that the punishment does not take place in the great throne room after all. But that will come at the cost of his argument that the prima facie meaning of the words in Revelation 14:9-11 supports his view rather than conditionalism. If he no longer takes ‘in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb’ (V10) at face value, then why can he legitimately appeal to the face value of ‘they have no rest, day or night’ as a way to defeat conditionalism?

This problem is not restricted to these select traditionalist proof texts. For instance, Matthew alone uses multiple words and phrases that do not cohere with Ortlund’s version of ECT. Matthew 10:28 is a well-known verse cited in defense of conditionalism. The basic argument put forward is, when the Greek word behind ‘destroy’, ἀπόλλυμι (apollumi) is used in the Synoptics in contexts where one person is destroying another person, it always has the nuance of ‘to slay’. Glenn Peoples has an article here, where he outlines this argument. I would add that ἀπόλλυμι is used interchangeably in the Synoptics with a verb that means ‘to kill’, ἀποκτείνω (apokteinō). The reader can compare those verses in Matthew that use ἀπόλλυμι (Matt. 2:13; 12:14; 21:14; 22:7; 27:20) or ἀποκτείνω (Matt. 14:5, 17:23; 21:35, 38-39; 22:6; 23:34, 37; 24:9: 26:4). In each case, one verb can be swapped out for the other without changing the meaning of the verse. That list grows when we consider the other Synoptic Gospels. This is because in this specific kind of context that is in view in Matthew’s narrative, these two verbs function as synonyms. Matthew 10:28b, therefore, refers to the body and soul being killed in Gehenna. This being so, then all other verses from Matthew that are cited in the hell debate also refer to the complete destruction of the person.

There are other problems that these verses pose for Ortlund. In Matthew 3:12, Matthew uses two compound verbs communicating that the chaff will be completely done away with. I have previously discussed this verse here and shown how the motif of an unquenchable fire has to do with being unable to put that fire out and so prevent it from fully consuming what it burns, and not necessarily with a fire that never goes out. We know that elsewhere in scripture, it does describe fires that go out (e.g. Ezekiel 20:47). The question I would ask Ortlund is, if Matthew intended to convey the idea that people survive that fire forever, then why was the image of chaff used?

In Matthew 13:40-43, Jesus interprets his own parable of the wheat and tares (Matt. 13:24-30). At first glance, the reader might think that the statement about weeping and gnashing of teeth indicates an endless period of suffering. However, the text gives no indication that the weeping and grinding of teeth will continue forever. That this event will happen at the end of this age does suggest a finite period of weeping and gnashing of teeth. There are also two clear clues that Matthew intended to say that those thrown into that fire will be completely burned up by it. I have discussed these clues here, but will summarise them briefly. The first clue is in verse 40, where Matthew says ‘Just as the weeds are gathered and burned with fire, so will it be at the end of the age’. The idea here is that the incineration of weeds at a harvest (Matt 13:30) gives a picture of what will happen to those who are punished at the culmination of the current age. The second clue falls in verse 42 with the statement ‘throw them into the fiery furnace’. The Greek phraseology behind ‘fiery furnace’ has a combination of εἰς (eis, into) + κάμινος (kaminos, ‘furnace’) + πῦρ (pur, fire). This particular combination of words is only found in LXX in Daniel 3, where variations of the phrase are used with reference to the superheated fire into which Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego are thrown (LXX Dan 3:6, 11, 20-21, 23, 26), and 4 Maccabees 16:21, which is a direct reference back to Daniel 3. In LXX Daniel 3, the verb καίω (kaiō ,’to burn’) is part of the construction. It is used as a participle that adds a sense of intense ferocity at which that fire burned. While 4 Maccabees does not use καίω at all,164 Maccabees 16:21 has a truncated version of the construction with εἰς κάμινον πυρος. Matthew uses καίω in verse 40 when Jesus refers to the incineration of the weeds at a harvest as the example of what will happen to those thrown into the eschatological fire. In doing so, Matthew not only evokes a sense that the fire will be superheated to a point where it is guaranteed to incinerate those thrown into it, but he also adapts Daniel’s phraseology to explicitly state this is what would happen. People can weep and gnash their teeth as they are brought to and thrown into the place where they are killed, but they most certainly cannot weep and gnash their teeth forever if they are killed by fire (keep in mind that Matthew has the body and soul killed in this fire, which sets it apart from the scene in Luke 16:19-32).

There are a few comments that we might make at this point. The prima facie meaning of the words and image in Matthew 3:12, 10:28, and 13:40-42 fail to cohere with Ortlund’s view of hell. Furthermore, if these three texts teach that the whole person is killed, then this would establish that other contested passages in Matthew also refer to the actual death of the sinner. For instance, since Matthew 10:28 does teach that Gehenna is where the whole person is slain, then those other places in Matthew that refer to Gehenna refer to the same fate (Matt 5:22, 29-30l 18:8-9). Likewise, Jesus’s statement about the wide path leading to destruction (Matt. 7:14), which is followed by a statement that those who do not bear good fruit will be disposed of in a fire (Matt. 7:19), and an analogy of a house that is completely destroyed by a storm and flooding (Matt. 7:27) should be read as statements about people being killed.

Furthermore, Matthew’s use of the OT helps us to see that he viewed those texts he drew from as teaching conditionalism. As discussed above, Matthew drew from LXX Daniel 3 when describing the sheer intensity of the fire he had in mind Matthew 13:40-42. Commentators also note ‘the righteous will shine like the sun’ (v43) echoes language from LXX Daniel 12:3 (Th.).17Donald Alfred Hagner, Matthew 1-13, (Zondervan Academic: 2000), 394; Walter T. Wilson, The Gospel of Matthew, vol. 1: Matthew 1–13, Kindle e., (William. B. Eerdmans: 2022), no Kindle loc. given; D. A. Carson, Matthew, Kindle ed., (Zondervan: 2010), no Kindle loc. given; Craig A. Evans, Matthew (Cambridge University Press: 2012), 281; R. T. France, The Gospel of Matthew, (William. B. Eerdmans: 2007), 537. This is striking since Daniel 12:2 is one of the texts cited frequently by traditionalists in support of the doctrine of eternal torment. The structure of Matthew 25:46 also appears to be based on LXX Daniel 12:2, as has been noted by Davies and Allison,

The line in antithetical parallelism is based upon LXX Dan 12:2–3: ‘And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall rise, some to life everlasting (εἰς ζωην αἰώνιον), some to reproach, and some (οἱ δέ) to dispersion and eternal shame.18W. D. Davies & Dale C. Allison Jr., A Critical and Exegetical Commentary on the Gospel according to Saint Matthew, vol. 3, (T&T Clark: 2004), 432.

While it is true that LXX Daniel 12:2 and Matthew 25:46 do not contain the same language with respect to what happens to the unrighteous, they share the same language with respect to what happens to the righteous. The prepositional phrase εἰς ζωην αἰώνιον (eis zōēn aiōnion) appears in both Matthew 25:46 and LXX Daniel 12:2. Εἰς ζωην αἰώνιον is also used in LXX Psalms of Solomon 3:16 and 4 Maccabees 15:3. The second text was penned after Matthew so would not be a source text for his thought processes. LXX Psalms of Solomon 3:15-16 possibly could have played a role in shaping how he expressed his thoughts, as it does refer to the fate of the righteous vis-à-vis the unrighteous, but LXX Daniel 12:2 is much closer to Matthew 25:46 in terms of its pithy syntax. Furthermore, Matthew also picks up on the use of the adjective δίκαιος (dikaios, ‘just, righteous) from an alternative Greek text of LXX Daniel 12:3 (Th.). On balance, the evidence suggests that Davies and Allison are correct. We can be confident not only in the fact that Matthew crafted his narrative in such a way that it unequivocally teaches conditionalism, but also in thinking that he thought OT texts like Daniel 12:3 are also conditionalist texts.

A similar observation can be made with respect to Matthew’s quotation of LXX Psalms 36:9 and 11 (the meek shall inherit land) in Matthew 5:5 (“Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth).19NT quotations of the OT are rarely exact so in the context of studies of biblical intertextuality the description of one author quoting another refers to a high degree of verbal correspondence between an author’s text and the OT source text. It will be fruitful to read LXX Psalms 36:9-11 in full.20LXX Psalm 36 aligns with Psalms 37 in our English Bibles.

For the ones who act wickedly will be destroyed. But the ones who wait upon the Lord, they will inherit the earth. And yet a little while, and the sinner will surely not exist (οὐ μή + ὑπάρχω), and you will seek for his place, and you will surely not find (οὐ μή + εὑρίσκω) him. But the meek will inherit the land, and they will delight in the multitude of peace.21Unless otherwise indicated all quotes from the LXX will be from Rick Brannan, Ken M. Penner et al., The Lexham English Septuagint, 2nd Edition (Bellingham, WA: Lexham Press, 2020).

LXX Psalms 36:10 juxtaposes the construction οὐ μή + εὑρίσκω with the construction οὐ μή + ὑπάρχω (ou mē + huparchō). The verb ὑπάρχω does have a range of meaning broader than ‘to be’, ‘exist’. However, in the case of LXX Psalms 36:10, ὑπάρχω translates the Hebrew ʾayin, which means ‘non-existence; nothing; not, no; without’.22The Lexham Analytical Lexicon of the Septuagint (Bellingham, WA: Lexham Press, 2012). This is similar to LXX Isaiah 41:11-12.

Look! All who oppose you will be dishonored and feel shame, for they will be as though they did not exist (ὡς οὐκ ὄντες), and all your adversaries will be destroyed. 12 You will seek them, and you will not find the people who rage against you, for they will be as though they did not exist (ὡς οὐκ ὄντες), and those who wage war against you will be no more (οὐ μή + εὑρίσκω).23Rick Brannan, Ken M. Penner et al., The Lexham English Septuagint, 2nd Edition (Bellingham, WA: Lexham Press, 2020).

Shalom M. Paul notes that two words in the Hebrew in verse 11 express nonexistence.24Paul identifies the Hebrew words as אַיִן and אֶפֶס. Shalom M. Paul, Isaiah 40–66: Translation and Commentary, (William B. Eerdmans: 2012), 168. The LXX has ὡς οὐκ ὄντες (hōs ouk óntes) the much-debated verb ἀπόλλυμι (apollumi). Ὄντες is the participle form of the verb to be εἰμί (eimi), so ὡς οὐκ ὄντες is a way of saying that a person no longer exists. In verse 12, the construction οὐ μή + εὑρίσκω is used in parallel with the phrase ὡς οὐκ ὄντες. This shows οὐ μή + εὑρίσκω was a way of saying that someone had died and so had ceased to exist. Matthew does not use any variation of this construction (except c.f. Matt 2:18 where a single negative particle is used). It is, however, remarkable that he quoted parts of LXX 36, which does appear to state the wicked will be annihilated, then speaks of the destruction of the whole person throughout the rest of his narrative. Matthew surely must have viewed LXX 36 as a thoroughly conditionalist text.

Much more could be said about the way in which the other Gospel authors interacted with OT texts when referring to the final fate of the lost reveals their view that those same OT texts support their view of conditionalism. There is a lack of space to lay out that case here. I will say, if one holds that the divine inspiration of the Bible means there is a high degree of cohesion between individual authors on theological issues, as I am sure Ortlund does, then it stands to reason that Mark, Luke and John were conditionalists who regarded their OT source texts as support for conditionalism.25This is not to say this the only way we know that Mark, Luke and John were conditionalists, since the work has been done to show that they were. If Matthew unequivocally taught that the whole person will be killed at the last judgment, then what room is there to say that there is any ambiguity with respect to his fellow Gospel authors’ teaching on the final fate of the lost?

This goes a long way towards eroding the force of Ortlund’s arguments that not all texts conditionalists cite have to do with the final fate of the lost. His point is to say that the body of biblical evidence cited in support of conditionalism may contain passages that only refer to death from this earth and not to the ultimate fate of the wicked. I can readily concede that the temptation to see conditionalism in every possible text is real, and conditionalists can at times claim evidence for our point of view that the passage does not support. Nevertheless, once we account for these more ambiguous passages, we are still left with a sizable body of evidence that we conditionalists have shown to support conditionalism. We have endeavored to apply the rules of hermeneutics to these passages to ensure we are not reading our view into these texts. That body of evidence is still much larger than the three passages from Revelation that cause Ortlund to remain unconvinced about conditionalism. This raises the question of why just three passages should keep him from accepting conditionalism when a much larger body of evidence really does support this view. Ortlund’s calculus seems to be off at this point, since the greater body of evidence in favor of conditionalism should tip him towards this view.

Part of Ortlund’s argument is that many claimed conditionalist passages do not clearly refer to non-existence. My response to this is that we do not have the burden to show any given passage explicitly says that the lost will be rendered non-existent. Rather, our burden is to show that these passages refer to the death of the person, the end of their life, as the punishment. If the person is said to be dead, then I resist entirely the notion that traditionalists like Ortlund can legitimately expect conditionalists to show that these passages speak to non-existence. I would suggest that the ambiguity he sees in these texts is a result of the assumptions he brings to the passages and are not inherently in them. Ortlund has – perhaps unintentionally – shifted onto conditionalists a burden to prove something we do not claim, while offering a select few verses from Revelation that prima facie conflict with his particular version of traditionalism.

One aspect of Ortlund’s argument has to do with ‘the nature of eternal life as the parallel opposite fate of eternal death.’ Ortlund contends that eternal ‘involves the quality of one’s existence, not just ongoing existence’. This is a self-defeating argument. Putting aside the debate about whether the biblical language of eternal life includes the idea of a quality of life, Ortlund admits here that it also has to do with ongoing existence. This means, if a biblical author states that unbelievers are denied eternal life, then they are denied an eternal quality of life and ongoing existence. This has some bearing on some of my previous comments. Those passages that do not explicitly say that a person is rendered non-existent need not do so if they explicitly state that unbelievers will be denied eternal life. Some of Ortlund’s reasons for rejecting conditionalism end up providing ways of defeating other arguments.

I truly respect Ortlund and appreciate his ministry. My comments here are not intended to attack him but simply outline why I remain utterly unconvinced of his reasons for rejecting conditionalism. Given the broad range of subjects that he discusses on his YouTube channel, I can understand that he was not able to cover everything in the depth of detail as I have in my response. That will just be the result of the nature of his ministry. He should keep doing what he does, as he adds a sane voice to a diverse range of controversial subjects. Having said that, Rethinking Hell is a single-subject project. We have already spent years studying the subject in great detail and, in most cases, have already more than adequately shown why Ortlund’s arguments against conditionalism fall flat. I would hope that when he has the time, Ortlund would review our material in more depth. Either way, I will still consider him a potential friend of the Rethinking Hell ministry.

References
1 While Ortlund uses the word annihilationism, I prefer the word conditionalism to describe my view of the final fate of the lost.
2 Gavin R. Ortlund, ‘A Losing Battle Against Reality: C. S. Lewis On The Nature And Necessity Of Hell’, in Bibliotheca Sacra, 176:703 (Jul 2019): 342.
3 Ibid., 327.
4 Ibid., 333.
5 Ibid, 334.
6 Ibid., 334.
7 Joseph Dear has already published articles that directly and indirectly interact with Ortlund’s view. You can read his articles here and here.
8 Readers can watch Ortlund’s video and make their own assessment of his response to the arguments he does discuss.
9 Robert H. Mounce, The Book of Revelation, Kindle ed., (William. B. Eerdmans: 1997), Kindle loc., 8271; George Eldon Ladd, A Commentary on the Revelation of John, (William B. Eerdmans: 1972), 289; G. K. Beale, The Book of Revelation: A Commentary on the Greek Text, (William B. Eerdmans: 1999), 1122; Grant R. Osborne, Revelation, Kindle ed. (Baker Publishing Group: 2012), Kindle loc., 17243
10 Beale, The Book of Revelation,, 1122.
11 I will be defending Bowles’s thesis that Revelation 14:9-11 has a chiasm in another article I am currently writing.
12 Ralph Bowles, Does Revelation 14: 11 Teach Eternal Torment? Examining a Proof-text on Hell, 28.
13 This is from page 2276 of Zondervans -NIV Biblical Theology Study Bible- Revelation Brian J. Tabb Bethlehem College & Seminary PhD, London School of Theology – Zondervan. The NIV Zondervan Study Bible, eBook: Built on the Truth of Scripture and Centered on the Gospel Message . Zondervan. Kindle Edition.
14 William D. Mounce, Mounce’s Complete Expository Dictionary of Old & New Testament Words (Zondervan: 2006), 737.
15 ‘‘the severe pain experienced through torture, torment’, William Arndt et al., A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2000), 168; ‘βᾰσᾰνισμός -οῦ, ὁ βασανίζω examination, torture, torment’, Franco Montanari, The Brill Dictionary of Ancient Greek, ed. Madeleine Goh and Chad Schroeder (Leiden; Boston: Brill, 2015); ‘severe pain associated with torture and torment’, Johannes P. Louw and Eugene Albert Nida, Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament: Based on Semantic Domains (New York: United Bible Societies, 1996), 286.
16 4 Maccabees 16:21 has a truncated version of the construction with εἰς κάμινον πυρος.
17 Donald Alfred Hagner, Matthew 1-13, (Zondervan Academic: 2000), 394; Walter T. Wilson, The Gospel of Matthew, vol. 1: Matthew 1–13, Kindle e., (William. B. Eerdmans: 2022), no Kindle loc. given; D. A. Carson, Matthew, Kindle ed., (Zondervan: 2010), no Kindle loc. given; Craig A. Evans, Matthew (Cambridge University Press: 2012), 281; R. T. France, The Gospel of Matthew, (William. B. Eerdmans: 2007), 537.
18 W. D. Davies & Dale C. Allison Jr., A Critical and Exegetical Commentary on the Gospel according to Saint Matthew, vol. 3, (T&T Clark: 2004), 432.
19 NT quotations of the OT are rarely exact so in the context of studies of biblical intertextuality the description of one author quoting another refers to a high degree of verbal correspondence between an author’s text and the OT source text.
20 LXX Psalm 36 aligns with Psalms 37 in our English Bibles.
21 Unless otherwise indicated all quotes from the LXX will be from Rick Brannan, Ken M. Penner et al., The Lexham English Septuagint, 2nd Edition (Bellingham, WA: Lexham Press, 2020).
22 The Lexham Analytical Lexicon of the Septuagint (Bellingham, WA: Lexham Press, 2012).
23 Rick Brannan, Ken M. Penner et al., The Lexham English Septuagint, 2nd Edition (Bellingham, WA: Lexham Press, 2020).
24 Paul identifies the Hebrew words as אַיִן and אֶפֶס. Shalom M. Paul, Isaiah 40–66: Translation and Commentary, (William B. Eerdmans: 2012), 168.
25 This is not to say this the only way we know that Mark, Luke and John were conditionalists, since the work has been done to show that they were.

Has John Dickson misinterpreted Romans 2:5-6? Part 2: Eisegeting Paul

This is the second article in my response to John Dickson and Greg Clarks. Their argument is that Romans 2:5-6 supports their contention that Paul taught there would be degrees of eternal punishment for those who reject Christ. This is important for their case against annihilationism, for they think that conditionalism cannot sufficiently account for degrees of punishment in hell for ‘a Hitler-figure … will receive the same judgment as a non-Christian humanitarian worker.’[1] My two-part series aims to show that Dickson and Clarke have misunderstood one of the passages they use to support their argument. In my first article I focused on their appeal to Paul’s statement that sinners are ‘storing up wrath against yourself’, showing their misunderstanding. You can find part one here.

In this article I will focus on this argument as they discuss Romans 2:5-6.

God will judge the world on the basis of human behaviour, in other words, ‘according to deeds.’ As Paul says in his letter to the Romans: Romans 2:5–6.

…In the above passage Paul quotes Psalm 62:12 saying that God’s judgment is “according to what each has done”. This does not mean ‘because of’ what each has done; it means ‘commensurate with’ or ‘in proportion to’ what each has done.[2] (emphasis Dickson and Clarke’s)

The relevant Greek preposition behind ‘according to’, κατά (kata), is polysemous. Beale, et al, note there are at least eight main variations of meaning of κατά when it is used with a noun in the accusative case.[3] However, even in these categories, there can also be variation of nuance.[4] My point is, there are several factors that exegetes take into account when trying to ascertain the exact nuance a polysemous preposition like κατά may have in any given context. Sometimes a proposition can even function as a double entendre or take on various meanings as it is used multiple times in the same passage. This is to say, the exegete must avoid simply assuming a proposition like κατά has a specific meaning in any given context.

This relates to Dickson and Clarke’s argument. They give no reason for their particular understanding of ‘according to.’ Κατά can be understood as referring ‘to the thing which is the ground or basis of something, and hence the item provides a standard for evaluation’.[5] However, this use of κατά does not necessarily denote the idea of variation in a standard. Perhaps this is why the many commentaries on Romans I have consulted, the subject of degrees of punishment has not been broached. There are parallels in the LXX and NT where the word for ‘each’ ἕκαστος (hekastos) is combined with κατά (LXX Ps 61:13; Prov 21:12; Mat 16:27; 1 Cor 3:8; 1 Pet 1:17; Rev 2:23). It is not always clear that degrees of punishment or reward is in view in these examples. For instance, in Matthew 16:27 Jesus says that ‘he will repay each person according to what he has done.’ The combination of ἕκαστος and κατά is used there, but Jesus had just stated that those who seek to save his life would lose it, while the reverse would be true for those who chose to follow him (v25). Gaining the whole world would be futile if that means one loses one’s life (v26). In that context, what one does could result in life or death for that person. The combination of ἕκαστος and κατά is used to express a precise and impartial standard of justice without the notion of degrees; rather, loss of life.

In contrast, Matthew 25:14-15 is an example where ἕκαστος + κατά is used in a context where there is variation in what people receive.

14 “For it will be like a man going on a journey, who called his servants and entrusted to them his property. 15 To one he gave five talents, to another two, to another one, to each according to his ability. (Matt 25:14-15 ESV)

The statement on the number of talents each servant receives is why ‘each according to his ability’ reads as a rationale for the variation of treatment of each servant. This kind of context is missing from Romans 2:6.

As discussed above, Paul had already articulated that those committing a range of sins all deserve to die (Rom 1:32). As Steven Runge points out, Romans 2 is not a completely new section but ‘builds directly on the latter half of chapter 1’.[6] In fact, most commentators point out that Romans 2:1-11 is directed at those who judge others even as they commit those same sins (Rom 2:1-3). These people commit the same sins so also deserve to die just as the ones they judge. They all deserve the one and same punishment of death. This all means that Paul’s ‘He will render to each one according to his works’ in Romans 6:2 is a statement emphasizing God’s impartiality in judgment without emphasizing degrees of punishment.

It comes as no surprise then that Romans 2:6 forms part of a chiasm, with its counterpart being a parallel statement that ‘For God shows no partiality’ (v11). Douglas Moo is one of many commentators who think Romans 6:6-11 has a chiastic structure, like a passage followed by its reflection.[7] Moo represents this chiasm in the following way.

A. God will judge everyone equitably v. 6

B. Those who do good will attain eternal life v. 7

C. Those who do evil will suffer wrath v. 8

C′. Wrath for those who do evil v. 9

B′. Glory for those who do good v. 10

A′. God judges impartially v. 11[8]

Since verse 6 is aligned with verse 11 in the chiasm, then each should be read as reflections of one another. Paul’s emphasis on God’s impartial judgment in verse 11 confirms that verse 6 is an affirmation that an ‘impartial standard of judgment that will be applied in the final Assize.’[9] This is all that Paul is saying in verse 6. Note too, the emphasis on those who seek immortality (along with glory and honor) being given eternal life. This must be seen in light of Romans 1:32. As noted above, Paul had stated that those who committed sins deserve to die. The language he used behind ‘deserve to die’ (ἄξιοι θανάτου) is used in Luke 23:15 (ἄξιον θανάτου) where Pilate tells the Jewish leaders that Jesus was innocent of any crime that might warrant the death penalty. It is also used in Acts 23:29 (ἄξιον θανάτου) and 25:25 (ἄξιονθανάτου) where Paul is said to have committed no crime that warranted his death. This shows such language referred to ordinary death. Romans 1:32 emphases that sinful behaviour should result in the death of the sinner while 2:7 shows that those who are righteous will be rescued from that death by being made immortal.

Some might think that Paul’s use of the couplet of synonyms θλῖψις καὶ στενοχωρία (thlipsis kai stenochōria, ‘tribulation and distress’) implies that there will be an ongoing experience of punishment in hell. We do need to keep in mind that the chiasm in Romans 2:6-11 has the couplet of synonyms θλῖψις καὶ στενοχωρία in parallel with ὀργὴ καὶ θυμός (orgē kai thumos, ‘wrath and fury’) so I will be discussing both couplets. In the LXX, ὀργὴ and θυμός are synonymous, being used interchangeably ‘to translate every variety of Hebrew word expressing divine wrath.’[10] The couplet ὀργὴ καὶ θυμός is used a way of portraying the intensity of anger that motivates someone to act in a certain way. An example of this is LXX Jeremiah 7:18-20, where persistent idolatry provokes God to anger to the point that his wrath and anger was being poured out on the idolater with such intensity that it ‘will burn and not be quenched.’[11] Dunn says that ὀργὴ καὶ θυμός is used with reference to final judgment in LXX Isa 13:9.[12]

LXX Isaiah 13:9 For behold, the incurable day of the Lord comes, a day of wrath and anger, to make the whole world desolate and to destroy the sinners from it. (NETS)

The Greek word behind ‘destroy’ in LXX Isaiah 13:9 is ἀπόλλυμι (apollumi). It translates the Hebrew word ḥāram. Mounce says ḥāram is most often used to refer to the complete destruction of cities, which ‘involves the total annihilation of the human and animal population’.[13] The LXX translator also followed the emphasis in the Hebrew on people being destroyed from the world. There is no doubt that LXX Isaiah 13:9 refers to people being killed and so removed from the world on the day of the Lord. Recall that in Romans 2:5 Paul had written of ‘the day of wrath.’ This coupled with his use of ὀργὴ καὶ θυμός in Romans 2:8 indicate that Paul had LXX Isaiah 13:9 in mind as an OT source text for his thought. This is another line of evidence that he thought that the wicked would be killed by God on the day of the Lord.

In the chiasm of Romans 2:6-11, ὀργὴ καὶ θυμός is in parallel with θλῖψις καὶ στενοχωρία (thlipsis kai stenochōria, ‘tribulation and distress’). Unlike ὀργὴ and θυμός, θλῖψις and στενοχωρία are not synonymous. Paul uses θλῖψις is used in 2 Thessalonians 1:4-6 in conjunction with the cognate verb θλίβω (thlibō, ‘to squeeze, press, afflict’). In Romans 2:6 Paul used ἀποδίδωμι (apodidōmi, translated in the ESV as ‘render’), which is a variation of the words for ‘repay’ in 2 Thessalonians 1:6 (ἀνταποδίδωμι, antapodidōmi, ‘to repay’) verse 8 (δίδωμι, didōmi, ‘to give’). The verb ἀποδίδωμι was also used in LXX Isaiah 66:15 which, as observed above, was a major OT source text for Paul’s thought in 2 Thessalonians 1:8. There is good reason to think that Paul used θλῖψις in Romans 2:9 because he had in mind what he was teaching in 2 Thessalonians.

In contrast to θλῖψις, στενοχωρία is used rarely in the LXX and NT, and it is not used at all in Isaiah 66 or 2 Thessalonians 1. Nevertheless, Robert Jewett has surveyed the uses of the couplet θλῖψις καὶ στενοχωρία and instances when the individual words are used in the LXX and NT.[14] His conclusion is ‘στενοχωρία conveys the unavoidability of divinely imposed disaster.’[15] It is no surprise he also concludes θλῖψις καὶ στενοχωρία at times ‘appears to constitute a formula for divine wrath’ that ‘depicts the manner in which divine wrath is experienced.[16] The majority of commentators on Romans 2:9 made similar conclusions. None suggested that θλῖψις καὶ στενοχωρία express the idea that people would experience affliction differently to each other. On the contrary, the use of the couple simply emphasizes that people will feel the force of that which afflicts them. If it is a natural disaster or persecution at the hands of others (Rom 8:35) one will feel the full effects of that which afflicts them. In the context of a chiasm where the full ὀργὴ καὶ θυμός of God is poured out on those who have sinned and deserve to die, θλῖψις καὶ στενοχωρία emphasizes that those same people will fully experience that divine wrath as they are executed. This is surely a rebuke to those who mischaracterize conditionalism as the view that unbelievers will be snuffed or blipped out of existence.

Given Dickson and Clarke failed to do anything more than simply state what they think “according to what each has done” means and so opened themselves up to the charge they committed eisegesis. Eisegesis is a technical way of saying ‘read into the test’. I have discussed the various factors that need to be taken into account when interpreting Romans 2:6. This shows that Dickson and Clarke interpreted this verse in a way that fits with their commitment to the doctrine of degrees of punishment in hell, and not necessarily because the evidence supports that reading of Romans 2:6.

Overall, it should be clear that Dickson and Clarke have entirely misunderstood Romans 2:5-6. Their appeal to the phraseology ‘according to what each has done’ and ‘storing up wrath against yourself’ is insufficient for establishing their contention that Paul was teaching degrees of punishment in Romans 2:5-6. They even miss Paul’s emphasis on conditional immortality in this passage. Rather than being evidence that might work against conditionalism, this passage gives the reader good reason to think Paul was a conditionalist. If only Dickson and Clarke had focused on some of Paul’s language used in that passage, they may have seen this too.

  1. 1John Dickson and Greg Clarke, 666 And All That – The Truth About The Future, Kindle ed., (Aquila Press: 2007), 79-80.
  2. 2Dickson and Clarke, 666 And All That, Kindle loc., 1072-1094.
  3. 3In English syntax (word order) generally tells the audience whether a noun is the subject or object of the clause, In Greek, the ending of a Greek noun that tells us this, When the Greek ending is in the form that indicates it might be the object, that is called the accusative case.
  4. 4Gregory K. Beale, , Daniel Joseph Brendsel, & William A. Ross, An Interpretive Lexicon of New Testament Greek: Analysis of Prepositions, Adverbs, Particles, Relative Pronouns, and Conjunctions, Kindle ed., (Zondervan: 2014), Kindle loc., 1238-1259.
  5. 5Stanley E. Porter, Idioms of the Greek New Testament, (Sheffield: JSOT, 1999), 163.
  6. 6Steven E. Runge, High Definition Commentary: Romans, (Lexham Press: 2014), 37.
  7. 7D. Moo, The Letter to the Romans, 2nd ed. (Eerdmans: 2018). Available at: https://www.perlego.com/book/2015314, accessed: 13 March 2025, no page given.
  8. 8A very basic introduction to biblical chiasm can be found here. Note, however, there can be variations in the use of chiasmus that this article does not discuss.
  9. 9Murray J. Harris, Prepositions and Theology in the Greek New Testament: An Essential Reference Resource for Exegesis, (Zondervan, 2012), 152–153.
  10. 10Anthony Tyrell Hanson, The Wrath of the Lamb, (S.P.C.K.: 1957), 206-209.
  11. 11In LXX Gen 27:41-44, Esau is characterized as having determined to kill his brother Jacob over having missed out from the blessing from their father. Jacob is told that moving to Mesopotamia will allow time for Esau’s wrath and anger to dissipate. In LXX Deut 29:23 it is said God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah in wrath and anger and verse 28 associates God’s wrath and anger with his exile of future sinful Israelites. See also LXX Isaiah 10:5 and 30:30.
  12. 12James D. G. Dunn, Romans 1-8, (Word Books: 1988), 87.
  13. 13William D. Mounce, Mounce’s Complete Expository Dictionary of Old & New Testament Words, (Zondervan: 2006), 175.
  14. 14Robert Jewett, Romans: A commentary, (Fortress Press: 2007), 207-208.
  15. 15Jewett, Romans, 208.
  16. 16Jewett, Romans, 207.

 

References
1 John Dickson and Greg Clarke, 666 And All That – The Truth About The Future, Kindle ed., (Aquila Press: 2007), 79-80.
2 Dickson and Clarke, 666 And All That, Kindle loc., 1072-1094.
3 In English syntax (word order) generally tells the audience whether a noun is the subject or object of the clause, In Greek, the ending of a Greek noun that tells us this, When the Greek ending is in the form that indicates it might be the object, that is called the accusative case.
4 Gregory K. Beale, , Daniel Joseph Brendsel, & William A. Ross, An Interpretive Lexicon of New Testament Greek: Analysis of Prepositions, Adverbs, Particles, Relative Pronouns, and Conjunctions, Kindle ed., (Zondervan: 2014), Kindle loc., 1238-1259.
5 Stanley E. Porter, Idioms of the Greek New Testament, (Sheffield: JSOT, 1999), 163.
6 Steven E. Runge, High Definition Commentary: Romans, (Lexham Press: 2014), 37.
7 D. Moo, The Letter to the Romans, 2nd ed. (Eerdmans: 2018). Available at: https://www.perlego.com/book/2015314, accessed: 13 March 2025, no page given.
8 A very basic introduction to biblical chiasm can be found here. Note, however, there can be variations in the use of chiasmus that this article does not discuss.
9 Murray J. Harris, Prepositions and Theology in the Greek New Testament: An Essential Reference Resource for Exegesis, (Zondervan, 2012), 152–153.
10 Anthony Tyrell Hanson, The Wrath of the Lamb, (S.P.C.K.: 1957), 206-209.
11 In LXX Gen 27:41-44, Esau is characterized as having determined to kill his brother Jacob over having missed out from the blessing from their father. Jacob is told that moving to Mesopotamia will allow time for Esau’s wrath and anger to dissipate. In LXX Deut 29:23 it is said God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah in wrath and anger and verse 28 associates God’s wrath and anger with his exile of future sinful Israelites. See also LXX Isaiah 10:5 and 30:30.
12 James D. G. Dunn, Romans 1-8, (Word Books: 1988), 87.
13 William D. Mounce, Mounce’s Complete Expository Dictionary of Old & New Testament Words, (Zondervan: 2006), 175.
14 Robert Jewett, Romans: A commentary, (Fortress Press: 2007), 207-208.
15 Jewett, Romans, 208.
16 Jewett, Romans, 207.

Has John Dickson misinterpreted Romans 2:5-6? Part 1: Cherry-picking Paul

In Australian apologetics circles, John Dickson is widely respected as a historian, author, and public advocate for the Christian faith. Though he steadfastly rejects conditionalism, the generally irenic tone of his responses to our comments has led many Australian conditionalists to maintain their deep respect for him. Just as Dickson maintains an irenic tone while not pulling his punches when critiquing conditionalism, I want to offer my own critique of his exegesis in a respectful way.

Dickson has co-authored a book with Greg Clarke called 666 and All That: The Truth About the Future in which they argue the following in support of the doctrine of degrees of punishment in hell.1John Dickson and Greg Clarke, 666 And All That – The Truth About The Future, Kindle ed., (Aquila Press: 2007).

God will judge the world on the basis of human behavior, in other words, ‘according to deeds.’ As Paul says in his letter to the Romans: Romans 2:5–6.

But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God’s wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed. God “will give to each person according to what he has done” [a quotation from Psalm 62:12].

This statement is fascinating because it contradicts the common misconception that God’s punishment of sinners will be applied equally to all, as if a Hitler-figure, to use an admittedly clichéd example, will receive the same judgment as a non-Christian humanitarian worker. We venture to say that this is not what the Scriptures teach….

In the above passage Paul quotes Psalm 62:12 saying that God’s judgment is “according to what each has done”. This does not mean ‘because of’ what each has done; it means ‘commensurate with’ or ‘in proportion to’ what each has done. The Apostle emphasizes the point by talking about “storing up wrath against yourself”. ‘Storing up’ (thēsaurizō) is a financial term, meaning to amass or accumulate. In other words, God’s wrath against an individual can be lesser or greater depending on what s/he has done in life.2Dickson and Clarke, 666 And All That, Kindle loc., 1072-1094. (emphasis Dickson and Clarke’s)

My response to this will be in two parts, with part 1 focusing on the meaning of Romans 2:5 while part 2 will discuss Romans 2:6.

Dickson and Clarke base their argument from ‘storing up wrath against yourself’ solely on a basic lexical definition of θησαυρίζω (thēsaurizō, ‘to store up’). Dickson and Clarke are correct that θησαυρίζω can refer to accumulating something (e.g., LXX 4 Kingdoms 20:17; Luke 12:13-21) or even piling up dirt to construct fortifications (LXX Zecharia 9:3).3Since there are textual variants in the LXX I will use either the LES (Lexham English Septuagint) or NETS (New English Translation of the Septuagint). Unless otherwise indicated I will use the ESV when quoting the Bible in English. To the untrained exegetical, eye this looks compelling. There is much more that needs to be taken into account when exegeting Romans 2:5.

For instance, there is a more general sense of θησαυρίζω that need not imply adding things together. Citing BDAG,4William Arndt et al., A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2000), 456. John Harvey thinks the verb ‘carries the idea of doing something that will bring about a future condition.'5John D. Harvey, Romans, B&H Publishing Group: 2017), 56. There is a good reason to think this more general sense of θησαυρίζω is what Paul had in mind in Romans 2:5. In the context of Romans 2:5, Paul had already spoken of a multitude of sins deserving the penalty of death. Romans 1:18-32 speaks of all who are unrighteous and ungodly as those who deserve to die for their sins. The list of sins includes murder alongside relatively ‘minor’ sins like a child’s disobedience of his or her parents, envy, foolishness, and gossip. In fact, murder is the only sin that we might consider to be serious enough to warrant the death penalty. Yet Paul refrains from making a distinction between the seriousness of these sins, instead saying, ‘those who do such things deserve death.’ This is evidence that Paul did not have in mind the idea that variegation in sin warrants degrees of punishment as he was writing Romans.

In Romans 2:1-5, Paul addresses a hypocritical interlocutor who presumes that he is safe from divine judgment because he had apparently experienced God’s kindness and blessing (Rom 2:4). Paul pulls no punches, telling the interlocutor that he has no excuse (Rom 2:1) because he commits the same sins as those addressed at the end of chapter 1 (or otherwise contained in some source of law). This means Paul’s ‘you are storing up wrath against yourself’ should be read in light of his previous statement that those committing a range of sins all deserved the same penalty of death.

Additionally, James Dunn (along with other commentators on Romans) thinks Paul’s ‘you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God’s wrath may be echoing the Greek of LXX Tobit and hints the same with LXX Psalms of Solomon.6James D. G. Dunn, Romans 1-8, (Word Books: 1988), 84.

LXX Tobit 4:8 According to the abundance you have, give alms from them in proportion to the abundance. If you possess a little, do not be afraid to give alms in proportion to the little, 9 for a good treasure you store up for yourself against a day of necessity. 10 For giving alms delivers one from death and will not allow that one to go into darkness. (LES)

LXX Psalms of Solomon 9:5 The one who practices righteousness stores up life for himself with the Lord, and the one who practices injustice is responsible for the destruction of his own soul, for the judgments of the Lord are in righteousness for each man and household. (NETS)

It is unclear whether Paul had a Hebrew, Aramaic, or Greek version of Tobit in mind when he wrote Romans 2:5. Nevertheless, David deSilva discusses how Tobit had influenced the NT with respect to its theme of almsgiving. He discusses a range of NT passages to demonstrate this, noting Paul’s development of this theme in 1 Timothy 6.7David A. deSilva, Introducing the Apocrypha: Message, Context, and Significance, 2nd ed., (Baker Publishing Group: 2018), 79-82. The NT authors had also developed Tobit’s ‘day of necessity’ for the ‘day of wrath’ theme (deSilva mentions Mat 25:31-45). It is reasonable to conclude that where there is evidence that Paul echoes Tobit, he was to some extent influenced by the older work in the way he expressed his own thoughts.

Most commentators think Paul uses irony at this point.8e.g. See Thomas Schriener, Romans, 2nd ed. (Baker Academic: 2018), 118-119, accessed at https://www.perlego.com/book/2051130, 8 February 2025. Where Tobit 4:9 has a good treasure being stored up and the Psalms of Solomon has life being stored up, Paul turns this on its head so that it is wrath. Interestingly, the author of Tobit has already prayed for his own death due to his many sins.

LXX Tobit 3:4-6 You gave us over to plunder, captivity, and death, and made us a proverb of disgrace to all the nations among which we were dispersed. And now your many judgments dealing with me are true because of my sins and those of my fathers; for neither have we observed your commandments, nor have we walked in faithfulness before you. So now deal with me as you see fit. Command to take up my spirit that I may be released and may become dirt, since it is more profitable for me to die than live. For I have heard untrue reproaches, and much grief is within me. Command that I be released of the distress immediately into the eternal place. Do not turn your face away from me.” (LES)

Notice the language: ‘You gave us over to plunder, captivity, and death’, ‘Command to take up my spirit that I may be released and may become dirt’, and ‘it is more profitable for me to die than live.’ Death here is the loss of life. The connection of plunder and captivity with death makes this clear enough. Moreover, the notion of the spirit being released so the person becomes dirt echoes the account of the creation of Adam (Gen 2:7). OT authors sometimes used this language from Genesis to speak of the ‘decreation’ of a person so death is spoken of as the reversal of a person’s creation (c.f., Gen 3:19; Ps 104:29, Eccl 3:20; 12:7). Carey A. Moore regards ‘my spirit’ as meaning ‘my life’ precisely because of this connection with the breath of life (Gen 2:7).9Carey A. Moore, Tobit, (Yale University Press: 1996), 140. See also, Robert J. Littman, Tobit The Book Of Tobit In Codex Sinaiticus, (Brill: 2008), 74. This is followed by Tobit 3:7-15, where a character named Sarah prays for her own death because a demon kept killing her husbands on her wedding day. The much-debated verb ἀπόλλυμι (apollumi) is used alongside the conventional verb for ‘to kill’ (ἀποκτείνω, apokteinó).

LXX Tobit 3:15 … Seven of mine are already dead (ἀπόλλυμι)! So then why should I live? Now if it does not seem right for you to kill (ἀποκτείνω) me, command that regard be had on me and show mercy to me that no longer may I hear a reproach.” (LES)

Like Tobit, Sarah is talking about ordinary death (a phrase herein used to refer to the most common sense of the word, ‘the end of life’, as opposed to any spiritual death or fine distinctions like ‘first death’). This is context for the statement that ‘giving alms delivers one from death’ in Tobit 4:10. Though Paul applies Tobit’s ‘you store up for yourself against a day of necessity’ ironically, reversing so those who sin store up wrath against themselves, his ‘those who practice such things deserve to die’ (Rom 1:32) shows that he continued to have Tobit’s emphasis on ordinary death.

The Psalms of Solomon is a collection of Jewish poems written by several authors. These poems were originally written in Hebrew in the first century BC and were translated into Greek by the end of the first century AD. It is impossible to say whether Paul interacted directly with Psalms of Solomon, but it should be noted that the language used throughout these Psalms show how the subject of punishment on the basis of works could be perceived around the time Paul wrote Romans.

The Psalms of Solomon evince an ordinary view of death. That is, when ‘Solomon’ talks about death, it is the loss of life and cessation of vital functions that is in view (e.g., 2:35–38; 3:11–16; 13:9–10; 14:1–6; 15:1–15; 17:25–26). R. B. Wright says that in the Psalms of Solomon,

Life after death is concentrated entirely in the hope for bodily resurrection (viz. 2:31; 3:12) and betrays no certain trace of a belief in an immortal soul. The life of the righteous “goes on forever” (13:11), but this is in the kingdom, after the “day of mercy” (14:9). Thus the psalmist conceives of man as essentially embodied and the occasional use of the term “soul” corresponds to its use in the psalter to mean “person.” He posits no body/ soul dualism and is not in the least “otherworldly” in his thinking.10R. B. Wright, “Psalms of Solomon: A New Translation and Introduction,” in The Old Testament Pseudepigrapha, vol. 2 (New Haven; London: Yale University Press, 1985), 645.

As a whole, the various Psalms of Solomon teach the righteous will live forever while sinners will be killed. God is portrayed as one who ‘puts the arrogant to sleep for eternal destruction in dishonor’ (2:35). Sinners ‘will perish in the day of the judgment of the Lord for eternity’ (15:13), and ‘will perish for the eternal time (15:15) since ‘all the substance of sinner’ will be destroyed (15:7) and so ‘will be removed into destruction’ (13:10). This is set in contrast to what will happen to the righteous. They ‘will arise into eternal life’ so ‘their life will never come to an end’ (3:16). ‘Famine and sword and death are far from the righteous’ (15:8). ‘The holy ones of the Lord will live in it for eternity (14:2) as their ‘planting is rooted for eternity (14:3).11The references above are from LEH. The emphasis on ordinary life and death in both Tobit and the Psalms of Solomon means that statements about storing up life or being repaid according to one’s works cannot be statements conveying the notion of degrees of punishment.

Some scholars even doubt that LXX Psalms of Solomon 9:5 are about the ‘mechanics’ of divine justice at all, instead insisting the point is no one can hide from God.12Paul R. Williamson, Death and the Afterlife: Biblical Perspectives On Ultimate Questions, Kindle Edition, (InterVarsity Press: 2017), Kindle loc., 1881-1896; David Falk, ‘Psalms and Prayers’ in Justification and Variegated Nomism. Volume I: The Complexities of Second Temple Judaism, ed. by D. A. Carson, Peter T. O’Brien, and Paul Seifrid, (J. C. B. Mohr: 2001), 42. The same approach is often taken by commentators on Romans 2:5-6, since they are reluctant to think Paul was teaching eternal life could be obtained by doing good works.13e.g. See Schriener, ‘How does judgment according to works fit with Paul’s theology? The most interesting question relates to the implications of these verses. Did Paul believe that some could obtain eternal life by doing good works? How does this fit with his claim that no one can be righteous before God by the works of the law (Rom. 3:20)? The main reason Paul introduced the issue of repayment according to works is to show the Jews that God is impartial,10 that there will be no special favoritism for them.’ Thomas R. Schreiner, Romans, 2nd ed., (Baker Academic: 2018), 122. In any case, it is clear that around the time that Paul wrote Romans, statements about storing up something or being judged by one’s works were not necessarily ways of talking about degrees of reward or punishment. If one comes to Romans 2:5-6 assuming otherwise—as Dickson and Clarke appear to—then one will be in danger of assuming he was talking about degrees of punishment when he was not.

Another way we can know Paul was not talking about degrees of punishment is to note his reference to the day of wrath (Rom 2:5). It has long been recognized that in biblical scholarship the NT authors took up the OT theme of a day of God’s wrath and applied it to the day when Christ returns.

In the Old Testament, the day of God’s wrath not only dawns for gentiles (Isa 13:9, 13; Ezek 38:18–19, 23; Zeph 3:8) but also, in an ironic way, for Israel because of Israel’s wickedness (Zeph 1:15, 18; 2:2–3). This is exactly Paul’s point here.14Frank Thielman, Romans, (Zondervan: 2018), accessed at https://www.perlego.com/book/581251, 1 March 2025, no page given.

Zephaniah is particularly illuminating for our purposes. Bear in mind, Zephaniah is talking about what would happen to sinful Israel on the day of wrath.

Zeph 1:15 A day of wrath is that day, a day of distress and anguish, a day of ruin and devastation, a day of darkness and gloom, a day of clouds and thick darkness (ESV)

Maria Eszenyei Szeles describes the picture created by this verse as a scene akin to

the devastation caused by a hurricane, the ravaging of a tornado, the evidence of total conflagration and havoc at the hands of a cruel enemy—material destruction, homes in ruins, human beings butchered.15Maria Eszenyei Szeles, Habakkuk and Zephaniah, (Eerdmans: 1987), 87

The Hebrew word behind ‘devastation’ (mešôʾâ) is translated in the LXX by ἀφανισμός (afanismos), which can mean ‘ruin’, ‘destruction’, or ‘annihilation.'16T. Muraoka, A Greek-English Lexicon of the Septuagint, (Peeters: 2009), 106. The word is translated in the following way in prominent translations of the LXX.

LXX Zeph 1:15 That day will be a day of anger, a day of affliction and torture, a day of darkness and extermination (ἀφανισμός), a day of gloom and darkness, a day of cloud and fog. (LES)

LXX Zeph 1:15 That day will be a day of wrath, a day of affliction and anguish, a day of untimely fate and annihilation (ἀφανισμός), a day of darkness and gloom, a day of clouds and fog (NETS)

Any doubt that the prophecy includes an emphasis on the wicked being killed is dispelled by further statements that God ‘will pour out their blood like dust, and their flesh like cow dung’ (v17),17The LES and NETS are identical. and bring a swift end to them (v18). Paul is expanding on Zephaniah with new revelation or typology, even though Paul uses all of the same ideas of ‘die’ (1:32) and ‘perish’ (2:12).

This fits with what Paul wrote in 2 Thessalonians 1:5-10, where he alludes to Isaiah 66 in more than one way. In his commentary on discussing whether Paul employed Isaiah 66 in this in 2 Thessalonians 1:5-10, Jeffrey Weima notes that LXX Isaiah 66:6 and 15 use ἀνταποδίδωμι (antapodidómi, ‘to repay’), which Paul picks up in 2 Thessalonians 1:6.18Jeffrey A. D. Weima, ‘1– 2 Thessalonians’, in Commentary on the New Testament Use of the Old Testament, eds G. K. Beale and D. A. Carson, (Baker Publishing Group: 2007), 883. Isaiah also uses a cognate of the word, ἀποδίδωμι (apodidómi, ‘to give back’) in LXX Isaiah 66:15. Paul uses δίδωμι (didómi, ‘to give’) in 2 Thessalonians 1:8. Paul’s εν φλογι πυρος (en pyri phlogos, ‘in flaming fire’) in 2 Thessalonians 1:8a is drawn from Isaiah 66:15.19Weima discusses a relevant textual variant of 2 Thessalonians 1:8 but concludes that εν φλογι πυρος was Paul’s. Weima, ‘1– 2 Thessalonians’, 883-884). In the same verse, Paul also echoes Isaiah’s αποδουναιεκδικησιν (apodounai … ekdikēsin, ‘render vengeance’) with διδοντος εκδικησιν (didōmi ekdikēsin, ‘inflicting vengeance’). Beale notes that 2 Thessalonians 1:8 is ‘the only place in the Old Testament where this combination of terms is found.'20G. K. Beale, 1–2 Thessalonians, (InterVarsity Press, 2003), 189. Fee points out that part of 2 Thessalonians 1:8 uses some of the language from Isaiah 66:4.21Gordon D. Fee, The First and Second Letters to the Thessalonians, (Eerdmans: 2009), 256-257. Weima also thinks there is some verbal similarity between 2 Thessalonians 1:12 and LXX Isaiah 55:5.22c.f., Paul’s οπως ενδοξασθη το ονομα του κυριου ημων Ιησου, hopōs endoxasthē to onoma tou kyriou hēmōn Iēsou en hymin, ‘so that the name of our Lord Jesus may be glorified’ with Isaiah’s ινα το ονομα κυριου δοξασθη, hina to onoma kyriou doxasthē, ‘so that the name of the Lord may be glorified.’ Weima, ‘1– 2 Thessalonians’, 886. There is sufficient evidence to conclude that 2 Thessalonians 2:5-10 ‘is the result of a conscious reflection of Isa. 66, supplemented by a few other OT texts.23Weima, ‘1– 2 Thessalonians’, 883.

In Isaiah 66, God slays his enemies (Is 66:16), leaving their rotting corpses open to the elements to be abhorred by the still living righteous (Is 66:24). Though the Hebrew word ḥālāl and the Greek word τραυματίας (traumatías) can refer to being wounded, they also often are used with reference to the fatal wounding or slaying of a person. This is worth mentioning here since some LXX translations render τραυματίας as ‘wounded’ in LXX Isaiah 66:15. Shalom M. Paul translates the Hebrew to “And many shall be the slain of the Lord”,24Shalom M. Paul, Isaiah 40–66: Translation and Commentary, (Eerdmans: 2012), 624. while Ottely notes that the Hebrew ‘regularly rendered ‘slain.'25Richard R. Ottley, ed., The Book of Isaiah according to the Septuagint (Codex Alexandrinus), vol. 2, (Cambridge University Press, 1906), 386. One Greek lexicon I own says τραυματίας can be understood as referring to a wounded man (2 Mac 4:42), casualties of war (wounded or dead, 1 Mac 1:18), the corpse of one slain (1 Kgs 11:15), or one fatally wounded (Deut 21:1).26Johan Lust, Erik Eynikel, and Katrin Hauspie, A Greek-English Lexicon of the Septuagint : Revised Edition (Deutsche Bibelgesellschaft: Stuttgart, 2003). In any case, verse 24 clearly depicts these enemies of God as having been killed.

Since this is a primary OT source text Paul had in mind when penning 2 Thessalonians 1:5-10, then it stands to reason that he had in mind the death of those who had afflicted the Thessalonian church on the day of Christ’s return (v10) when they ‘will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction’ (v9). The word for ‘destruction’ is ὄλεθρος (olethros). While traditionalist commentators regard ὄλεθρος in a way that fits with the doctrine of eternal torment, it should be noted in the LXX this noun was used ‘always with the general sense “destruction,” though often death is at least implied as well.’27ὄλεθρος, in New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology and Exegesis, 2nd ed., edited by Moisés Silva, Olive tree ed., (Zondervan: 2014), no page given. Beale points to several instances in the LXX where ὄλεθρος is used with reference to death.28Beale cites LXX 1 Kings 13:34; Ezek 14:16–18; 3 Macc 6:30, 34. G. K. Beale, 1–2 Thessalonians, (InterVarsity Press, 2003), 188. Others think Paul used ὄλεθρος with reference to physical death in 1 Thessalonians 5:3, 1 Corinthians 5:5, and 1 Timothy 6:9.29For instance, see D. Michael Martin, 1, 2 Thessalonians, (Broadman & Holman Publishers, 1995), 213; Charles A. Wanamaker. The Epistle to the Thessalonians, Kindle ed., (Eerdmans: 1990), Kindle Locations 3874-3876; Jeffrey A. D. Weima, 1-2 Thessalonians, Kindle ed., (Baker Publishing Group: 2014). Kindle loc., 11681-11696; Ernest Best, The First and Second Epistles to the Thessalonians, (A. & C. Black: 2003), 261. The point is ὄλεθρος is the kind of word that afforded Paul the ability to talk about the permanent death of the wicked. Since Isaiah 66 was an OT source text for 2 Thessalonians 1:5-10, it follows that he had in mind Isaiah 66:24 when he wrote about the eternal destruction of those who had persecuted the Thessalonian church. After all is said and done, this context shows that Paul was talking about the death of the wicked when he wrote ὄλεθρον αἰώνιον (eternal destruction).30For more on this argument, please see our 2-part series on this passage.

Paul’s emphasis on the death of the person on the day of judgment in 2 Thessalonians 1:9 helps us to understand what he meant by storing up wrath and being judged by works in Romans 2. The notion of storing up wrath is the idea that people have acted in such a way that God’s full wrath will be poured out on them, thus ending their lives. Being judged by one’s works is just a way of saying God’s judgment for sin is not arbitrary.

A significant problem for Dickson and Clarke’s reading of Romans 2:5 as a statement of degrees of punishment in hell is Paul’s explicit reference to the day of judgment. Paul is talking about what happens to the wicked on that day when they are judged by God. Even if ‘you are storing up wrath for yourself’ implies some kind of variation in the intensity of wrath being poured onto each sinner, Dickson and Clarke have yet to explain why this should be read as a statement about the punishment people receive once they are in hell, as opposed to “on the day of wrath.” Their logic turns directly against them, as even if they are correct, it would actually prove that all that added-up wrath is repaid on a day — that is, over a finite amount of time.

All in all, Dickson and Clarke have failed to account for the breadth of evidence that needs to be considered to properly understand Romans 2:5. By basing their conclusion on a particular gloss of a single word in the verse, they have presented a case that rests on a single data point. This is a text-book example of cherry-picking evidence. An unfortunate result of this they have indeed misunderstood Romans 2:5.

References
1 John Dickson and Greg Clarke, 666 And All That – The Truth About The Future, Kindle ed., (Aquila Press: 2007).
2 Dickson and Clarke, 666 And All That, Kindle loc., 1072-1094.
3 Since there are textual variants in the LXX I will use either the LES (Lexham English Septuagint) or NETS (New English Translation of the Septuagint). Unless otherwise indicated I will use the ESV when quoting the Bible in English.
4 William Arndt et al., A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2000), 456.
5 John D. Harvey, Romans, B&H Publishing Group: 2017), 56.
6 James D. G. Dunn, Romans 1-8, (Word Books: 1988), 84.
7 David A. deSilva, Introducing the Apocrypha: Message, Context, and Significance, 2nd ed., (Baker Publishing Group: 2018), 79-82.
8 e.g. See Thomas Schriener, Romans, 2nd ed. (Baker Academic: 2018), 118-119, accessed at https://www.perlego.com/book/2051130, 8 February 2025.
9 Carey A. Moore, Tobit, (Yale University Press: 1996), 140. See also, Robert J. Littman, Tobit The Book Of Tobit In Codex Sinaiticus, (Brill: 2008), 74.
10 R. B. Wright, “Psalms of Solomon: A New Translation and Introduction,” in The Old Testament Pseudepigrapha, vol. 2 (New Haven; London: Yale University Press, 1985), 645.
11 The references above are from LEH.
12 Paul R. Williamson, Death and the Afterlife: Biblical Perspectives On Ultimate Questions, Kindle Edition, (InterVarsity Press: 2017), Kindle loc., 1881-1896; David Falk, ‘Psalms and Prayers’ in Justification and Variegated Nomism. Volume I: The Complexities of Second Temple Judaism, ed. by D. A. Carson, Peter T. O’Brien, and Paul Seifrid, (J. C. B. Mohr: 2001), 42
13 e.g. See Schriener, ‘How does judgment according to works fit with Paul’s theology? The most interesting question relates to the implications of these verses. Did Paul believe that some could obtain eternal life by doing good works? How does this fit with his claim that no one can be righteous before God by the works of the law (Rom. 3:20)? The main reason Paul introduced the issue of repayment according to works is to show the Jews that God is impartial,10 that there will be no special favoritism for them.’ Thomas R. Schreiner, Romans, 2nd ed., (Baker Academic: 2018), 122.
14 Frank Thielman, Romans, (Zondervan: 2018), accessed at https://www.perlego.com/book/581251, 1 March 2025, no page given.
15 Maria Eszenyei Szeles, Habakkuk and Zephaniah, (Eerdmans: 1987), 87
16 T. Muraoka, A Greek-English Lexicon of the Septuagint, (Peeters: 2009), 106.
17 The LES and NETS are identical.
18 Jeffrey A. D. Weima, ‘1– 2 Thessalonians’, in Commentary on the New Testament Use of the Old Testament, eds G. K. Beale and D. A. Carson, (Baker Publishing Group: 2007), 883.
19 Weima discusses a relevant textual variant of 2 Thessalonians 1:8 but concludes that εν φλογι πυρος was Paul’s. Weima, ‘1– 2 Thessalonians’, 883-884).
20 G. K. Beale, 1–2 Thessalonians, (InterVarsity Press, 2003), 189.
21 Gordon D. Fee, The First and Second Letters to the Thessalonians, (Eerdmans: 2009), 256-257.
22 c.f., Paul’s οπως ενδοξασθη το ονομα του κυριου ημων Ιησου, hopōs endoxasthē to onoma tou kyriou hēmōn Iēsou en hymin, ‘so that the name of our Lord Jesus may be glorified’ with Isaiah’s ινα το ονομα κυριου δοξασθη, hina to onoma kyriou doxasthē, ‘so that the name of the Lord may be glorified.’ Weima, ‘1– 2 Thessalonians’, 886.
23 Weima, ‘1– 2 Thessalonians’, 883.
24 Shalom M. Paul, Isaiah 40–66: Translation and Commentary, (Eerdmans: 2012), 624.
25 Richard R. Ottley, ed., The Book of Isaiah according to the Septuagint (Codex Alexandrinus), vol. 2, (Cambridge University Press, 1906), 386.
26 Johan Lust, Erik Eynikel, and Katrin Hauspie, A Greek-English Lexicon of the Septuagint : Revised Edition (Deutsche Bibelgesellschaft: Stuttgart, 2003).
27 ὄλεθρος, in New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology and Exegesis, 2nd ed., edited by Moisés Silva, Olive tree ed., (Zondervan: 2014), no page given.
28 Beale cites LXX 1 Kings 13:34; Ezek 14:16–18; 3 Macc 6:30, 34. G. K. Beale, 1–2 Thessalonians, (InterVarsity Press, 2003), 188.
29 For instance, see D. Michael Martin, 1, 2 Thessalonians, (Broadman & Holman Publishers, 1995), 213; Charles A. Wanamaker. The Epistle to the Thessalonians, Kindle ed., (Eerdmans: 1990), Kindle Locations 3874-3876; Jeffrey A. D. Weima, 1-2 Thessalonians, Kindle ed., (Baker Publishing Group: 2014). Kindle loc., 11681-11696; Ernest Best, The First and Second Epistles to the Thessalonians, (A. & C. Black: 2003), 261.
30 For more on this argument, please see our 2-part series on this passage.

Why I Think Universalists Misunderstand Isaiah 45:23 and Philippians 2:10-11

By myself I have sworn; from my mouth has gone out in righteousness a word that shall not return: ‘To me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear allegiance.’ “Only in the LORD, it shall be said of me, are righteousness and strength; to him shall come and be ashamed all who were incensed against him.1Unless otherwise indicated, all passages cited will be from the ESV; when citing a passage from the LLX the hyperlink will be for the ESV so I will provide the translation for the LXX in the endnotes. The LXX translation will be NETS, Albert Pietersma and Benjamin G. Wright, eds., A New English Translation of the Septuagint (Primary Texts), (Oxford University Press, 2007).

Isaiah 45:23-24

Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Philippians 2:9-11

One of the most important Old Testament texts about salvation for the Gentiles is Isaiah 45:20-25. It clearly reflects a post judgment salvation for the nations.

Gregory MacDonald2Gregory MacDonald, The Evangelical Universalist: The Biblical Hope that God’s Love Will Save Us All, 2nd ed., (Wipf and Stock: 2012), 67.

Isaiah tells us in chapter forty–five that God says to look unto him to be saved. It goes on to say, he has sworn by himself that every knee should bow, and every tongue swear. This is God’s oath to save every bowed (subjection) knee to swear allegiance to Jesus.

Carroll D. Timothy3Timothy D. Carroll, Christ—The Original Matrix: God Face-to-Face, Kindle ed. (Resource Publications: 2020), Kindle locations, 1440-1449.

A careful consideration of the context of Isaiah 45:23 which Paul cited in Philippians 2:11 makes it clear that he meant to convey the truth that someday all will have bowed to Christ, confessing Him as Lord.

George Sidney Hurd

Other than Robin Parry (aka, Gregory MacDonald) and George Sidney Hurd, universalists do not seem to do more than cite Isaiah 45:23-24 to simply conclude it supports universalism. Many do not even mention these verses, despite the fact they are the OT source text for one of the more popular universalist proof texts: Philippians 2:10-11. To a certain extent, this is understandable. After all, does not Paul plainly say that all will swear allegiance to God?

What about Isaiah 45:24? Does that verse not indicate those who have been angry towards God will be ashamed? Would that not indicate that not all will swear allegiance to God? Robin Parry thinks not. Parry would say ‘When they turn away from idols to Yahweh as the one true God, they do so because they are ashamed of their past.’4MacDonald, The Evangelical Universalist, 69. The point is people could very well be ashamed for their past sins while submitting to God in worship. That is, I think, a decent reply. However, exploring the way that the theme of shame is utilized in Isaiah may shed a different light on the subject.

The theme of shame has already appeared in Isaiah 45:14.

Thus says the LORD: “The wealth of Egypt and the merchandise of Cush, and the Sabeans, men of stature, shall come over to you and be yours; they shall follow you; they shall come over in chains and bow down to you. They will plead with you, saying: ‘Surely God is in you, and there is no other, no god besides him.'”

The language of ‘come over to you’, ‘be yours’, ‘follow you’, and ‘bow down to you’ has led several commentators to think the statement that ‘they shall come over in chains’ connotes a voluntary surrender.5e.g. John N. Oswalt, The Book of Isaiah, Chapters 40–66, (William. B. Eerdmans Publishing: 1998), 215; Carl Friedrich Keil and Franz Delitzsch, Commentary on the Old Testament, vol. 7 (Peabody: 1996), 447. However, Motyer notes that Isaiah is using military imagery to describe these nations ‘willingly accepting their place as Israel’s conquered foes.’6Alec Motyer, Isaiah by the Day: A New Devotional Translation, Kindle ed., (Christian Focus Publications: 2011), Kindle loc., 6234-6248. These nations may come voluntarily, but they do so as vassal states who present themselves subjects and slaves of Israel.7Keil and Franz, Commentary on the Old Testament, 447. This reading of the verse would be more likely if Shalom M. Paul is correct that the Hebrew behind ‘men of stature’ involves ‘an Akkadian loanword meaning “tribute”, which would then imply the Sabeans were paying a tribute to Israel as a vassal state.8Shalom M. Paul, Isaiah 40–66: Translation and Commentary, (William B. Eerdmans Publishing: 2012), 265. It is heavily debated whether verse 15 expresses the viewpoint of the nations, Israel, or the author/editor. Nevertheless, it is a recognition and affirmation of God as savior.

In any case, a clear contrast is made between Israel and those who produced idols in Isaiah 45:16-17.

All of them are put to shame and confounded; the makers of idols go in confusion together. But Israel is saved by the LORD with everlasting salvation; you shall not be put to shame or confounded to all eternity.

Israel will forever be saved and never put to shame. The much-debated Hebrew word, ôlām, is behind ‘everlasting’ and ‘all eternity’. Though in both instances ôlām is plural, semantically speaking, the sense conveyed is ‘eternity’ or ‘perpetuity’.9I have no training in Hebrew so I consulted Shalom M. Paul’s commentary on Isaiah 40-46 and then consulted an acquaintance who also has expertise in the relevant ancient languages named Stewart James Felker. Paul, Isaiah 40–66: Translation and Commentary, 268. For interaction with Paul see this link to Felker’s Reddit page where he catalogs his discussions of ancient language relevant to eschatology. https://www.reddit.com/user/Prosopopoeia1/comments/17o7frh/comment/kjs8woa/. LXX Isaiah 45:1710the NETS translation of the Greek of the LXX is, ‘Israel is being saved by the Lord with everlasting salvation; they shall not be ashamed or disgraced forever’ has σωτηρίαν αἰώνιον (‘eternal salvation’) and οὐκ αἰσχυνθήσονται οὐδὲ μὴ ἐντραπῶσιν ἕως τοῦ αἰῶνος (‘they shall not be ashamed or disgraced forever’) as the parallel.11Note that Hebrews 5:9 affirms that Jesus is the source of σωτηρίαν αἰώνιον (eternal salvation) for all who obey him. In LXX Isaiah 26:412the NETS translation of the Greek of the LXX is, ‘have they hoped, O Lord, forever—the great, everlasting God,’ the same combination of this language is used of God – O Lord, forever (ἕως τοῦ αἰῶνος) the great, everlasting (ὁ αἰώνιος) God. This is a context where God saves the righteous and conquers those Moabites13c.f. LXX Is 25:10, he NETS translation of the Greek of the LXX is, ‘because God will give us rest on this mountain, and Moabitis shall be trodden down as they tread a threshing floor with wagons’ who lived in lofty places and strong cities.14Is 26:1-6 In Isaiah 26:4 this kind of language assures the audience that God’s victory is permanent for he himself is eternal. In Isaiah 45:17 the same kind of language (in Hebrew and Greek) reinforces the idea that Israel’s salvation is permanent and so she will never be put to shame.

In contrast, the idol makers will be put to shame (bôš) and will be confused (kālam).15These two verbs are not the only words that might be used to refer to shame in the OT. However, I will focus my attention on them for the purposes of this discussion. Since I am not trained in Hebrew I will use the transliteration of Hebrew words. Shame (bôš) and confound (kālam), overlap significantly with respect to nuances relating to shame and disgrace. They can even be used interchangeably.16kālam is used in 2 Sam 19:3 and bôš appears in 2 Sam 19:5; see also Psalm 40:14; 69:6; 70:2 They can be juxtaposed to emphasize a great degree of shame and dishonor.17Ezra 9:6; Job 9:3; Psa 35:4; Isa 50:7; 54:5 Jer 6:15; 8:12; 14:3; 22:22; Eze 36:32 In Isaiah, judgment is connected with shame (bôš) and disgrace (kālam), which is bound up with a shameful death.18Is 14:18-19; 66:24 For Isaiah, salvation involves the removal of shame and disgrace with a restoration of honor.19c.f. Is 61:7; 65:13; Is 29:22; 43:4 Restoration ensures one will never again be put to shame.20Is 49:23; 54:4

Set in this broader context, Isaiah 45:16-17 emphasizes that Israel will be saved from judgment while those from other nations who continue in their idolatry will be judged and punished. The main point here is, despite language indicating that Egyptians, Cushites, and the Sabeans would become followers of God, Isaiah was making a distinction between the recalcitrant idolaters of the foreign nations and faithful Israel. The two groups of people would be treated quite differently from each other, with only one group being eternally saved.

Noting this is helpful for our discussion of the apparent universalism of Isaiah 45:23. There are several verbal connections between Isaiah 45:14-17 and the following paragraph in 45:18-25.21Smith describes these verbal corrections: ‘A connection between these two paragraphs is created by the repetition of several words: (a) “shame” (bôš) in 45:16, 17 and 45:24; (b) “hide, be secret” (sātar) in 45:15 and 45:19; (c) “there is no other, there is no other” in 45:14, “there is no other” in 45:18, “there is no other God besides me” in 45:21, and “there is no other” (ʾēn ʿôd) in 45:22; (d) “Savior” (môšîaʿ) in 45:15 and 45:21; and (e) “idols” (ṣîr, pesel) in 45:16, 20. God’s act of saving Israel and many people from the nations is a central theme that runs throughout this section.’ Gary Smith, Isaiah 40-66, (Broadman & Holman Publishers: 2009), 268. One verbal connection is the use of shame (bôš). It will be helpful to quote Isaiah 45:23-25 again.

By myself I have sworn; from my mouth has gone out in righteousness a word that shall not return: ‘To me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear allegiance.’ “Only in the LORD, it shall be said of me, are righteousness and strength; to him shall come and be ashamed (bôš) all who were incensed against him. In the LORD all the offspring of Israel shall be justified and shall glory.”

This is part of a literary unit spanning verses 18-25. Note verse 20,

Assemble yourselves and come; draw near together, you survivors of the nations! They have no knowledge, who carry about their wooden idols, and keep on praying to a god that cannot save.

This has led several commentators to conclude that the surviving remnants of a conquest where many had been killed are now being called to gather together.22For instance, see Paul, Isaiah 40–66, 270; Geoffrey W. Grogan, “Isaiah”, in The Expositor’s Bible Commentary: Isaiah, Jeremiah, Lamentations, Ezekiel, ed. Frank E. Gaebelein, (Zondervan Publishing House: 1986), 272; John N. Oswalt, The Book of Isaiah, Chapters 40–66, (William. B. Eerdmans Publishing: 1998), 221. This means the gathering of people from the ends of the earth is not truly universal in the sense that all who had lived to that point would attend. Only survivors will be present to bow before God in verse 23, but the survivors in view here are those who have continued to engage in idolatry.23Paul, Isaiah 40–66, 270. They are then told to present their best arguments in defense of themselves (v21). This is hardly a context in which the salvation of these idolaters is assured.

In any case, Isaiah goes on to draw a distinction between two groups. Verse 24 and 25 both begin with ‘in the Lord’, which provides a structure to the passage enabling Isaiah to emphasize this distinction. This is missed by universalists when they do get around to discussing the passage in any detail. For instance, though George Sidney Hurd claims the context supports universalism, he omits quoting and discussing verse 25, and so completely misses the full point being made by Isaiah. Vese 24a is a statement about God, not those who might be saved by him. In the second half of the verse, the focus is on how those who were incensed against God would be put to shame. The Hebrew word bôš is not used in conjunction with kālam as it is in Isaiah 45:14. This phraseology has already been used in Isaiah 41:11-12,

Behold, all who are incensed against you shall be put to shame (bôš) and confounded (kālam); those who strive against you shall be as nothing and shall perish. You shall seek those who contend with you, but you shall not find them; those who war against you shall be as nothing at all.

In this context, judgment of the pagan nations is overtly in view (Is 41:1). This involves pagan kings being subdued as they are ground to dust and driven like stubble (Isaiah 41:2). Shalom M. Paul says that ‘be as nothing’ and ‘shall perish’ express nonexistence and so reiterates the point that had previously been made in the passage about the utter insignificance of Israel’s opponents.24Ibid., 168. Despite experiencing shame, the opponents of Israel will end up being no more. As Watts puts it, they will be ‘doomed to extinction’.25John D. W. Watts, Isaiah 34-66, revised ed., (Zondervan: 2005), 639. This is what is being highlighted in Isaiah 45:24. Rather than coming to God to voluntarily admit to their shame, those who are incensed against God will be subdued in shame and then will be killed.

In contrast to this, Isaiah 45:25 has the descendants of the Israelites being justified. The Hebrew word behind ‘justified’ has already been used in verse 24, where Isaiah states that righteousness is only found in the Lord. Verse 25 indicates that only the Israelites will be justified. Those who are angry at God will not. Just as Isaiah has previously spoken of the Israelites as the group who will be eternally saved (45:17) here they are the group which will be justified.

These data show how Isaiah 45 supports conditionalism, not universalism. In fact, we now have evidence that when Isaiah stated that every knee will bow and every tongue will swear allegiance to God, he had in view all the faithful Israelites and not necessarily all people universally. There is no statement of universal salvation as most universalists assume.

Robin Parry objects,

those who are ashamed are all the nations. If this shaming excludes them from salvation, then, presumably, none of the nations turn to Yahweh and are saved, which flatly contradicts the teaching of Isaiah elsewhere (e.g., 60:1ff.; 66:18-23; 2:1-4), and the divine oath becomes something of a joke. We may better understand the contrast when we appreciate that the nations throughout Second Isaiah are idolaters. When they turn away from idols to Yahweh as the one true God, they do so because they are ashamed of their past. Israel, on the other hand, is vindicated and rejoices.26MacDonald, The Evangelical Universalist, 69.

The chief problem here is Isaiah later opens up the possibility of salvation for non-Israelites, he continues with his distinction between those who will finally be saved and those who will not. It is true that Isaiah 66:18-23 indicates Isaiah did not think only Israelites could be saved. However, Parry omits verses showing the prophet believed not everyone will eventually be saved. For instance, Isaiah 66:15-16 speaks of how God will kill his enemies,

“For behold, the LORD will come in fire, and his chariots like the whirlwind, to render his anger in fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire. For by fire will the LORD enter into judgment, and by his sword, with all flesh; and those slain by the LORD shall be many.

Likewise, Isaiah’s last word is to make it clear that the still-living righteous will continually view the corpses of the slain enemies of God.

“And they shall go out and look on the dead bodies of the men who have rebelled against me. For their worm shall not die, their fire shall not be quenched, and they shall be an abhorrence to all flesh.”

So, despite talking in ways that show he thought people from the nations could find salvation, Isaiah continued to maintain his distinction between those who will finally find salvation and those who will not.

Of interest here is Isaiah’s reference to ‘all flesh’.27sometimes rendered as ‘all humankind’ or ‘all people’ Universalists often point to such language, arguing as if this is indisputable evidence that the Bible teaches universalism. However, read in context, the phraseology patently refers to all the righteous. This is no denial that the word ‘all’ retains its normal meaning, but rather recognition that the context shows that ‘all’ in a particular group of people is in view. I find that universalists tend to ignore the limiting contextual clues when citing their ‘all’ proof-texts so Isaiah 66:24 is particularly useful for addressing their exegetical misstep.

This has a bearing on how we should view Paul’s statement in Philippians 2:9-11.

Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Like Isaiah, Paul maintained a distinction between those who are saved and those who will be destroyed, Consider Philippians 1:26-28.

Only let your manner of life be worthy of the gospel of Christ, so that whether I come and see you or am absent, I may hear of you that you are standing firm in one spirit, with one mind striving side by side for the faith of the gospel, and not frightened in anything by your opponents. This is a clear sign to them of their destruction, but of your salvation, and that from God.

In Philippians 3:18-21, Paul will reiterate this distinction,

For many, of whom I have often told you and now tell you even with tears, walk as enemies of the cross of Christ. Their end is destruction, their god is their belly, and they glory in their shame, with minds set on earthly things. But our citizenship is in heaven, and from it we await a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body to be like his glorious body, by the power that enables him even to subject all things to himself.

The Greek word behind ‘destruction’ in both pericopes is ἀπώλεια (apōleia, ‘destruction’). In the first, ἀπώλεια is used in apposition to σωτηρία (sōtēria, ‘salvation’). The noun ἀπώλεια was a strong word for expressing the notion of annihilation and complete ruin.28William D. Mounce, Pastoral Epistles, (Zondervan: 2000), 532). Putting aside the debate on the exact meaning of ἀπώλεια, the idea here is only one group of people will be saved to be transformed to be immortal like Christ (c.f. Phil 3:20-21; 1 Cor 15:50-54). The ultimate end of the other group is their annihilation/ruin. The use of the Greek word τέλος (telos, ‘end, goal, outcome’) has an emphasis on the final outcome of something.29See BDAG, ‘‘the goal toward which a movement is being directed, end, goal, outcome’ William Arndt et al., A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2000), 998. The thrust of the phrase this phrase, which has the plural relative pronoun ὧν τὸ τέλος ἀπώλεια (‘their end is destruction’), is on the final outcome for these ‘enemies of the cross of Christ’ (v18). This becomes even more obvious when read in conjunction with Philippians 1:28.

Gordon Fee summarizes Paul’s point well,

In calling them enemies of the cross of Christ Paul is, as the first matter, intentionally setting them over against both Christ (2:8) and himself (2:10–11) … That their destiny is destruction makes it clear that Paul does not consider them to be followers of Christ at all … as in 1:28, which it echoes, the language cannot be softened to mean anything other than eternal destruction.30Gordon D. Fee, Philippians, (IVP Academic: 1999), 162.

I have searched universalist literature as much as I am able. I have not seen any prominent universalist even attempt to explain their reading of Paul’s ὧν τὸ τέλος ἀπώλεια (Phil 3:19). This seems to be part of a general trend in universalist ranks of ignoring or downplaying this kind of text that might show Paul was not a universalist.

Another passage shedding light on his perspective is Romans 6:20-22.

For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. But what fruit were you getting at that time from the things of which you are now ashamed? For the end (τέλος) of those things is death. But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the fruit you get leads to sanctification and its end (τέλος), eternal life.

Note the contrast between the end result of being slaves of sin as opposed to being slaves of God. This passage helps us see that Paul used τέλος in such contexts as a way of emphasizing the final fate of both unbelievers and believers. Just as the final outcome of our sanctification is eternal life the final outcome of those who remain slaves of sin is death. The point is, Paul’s use of τέλος in Romans 6:221-22 was a way to refer to the final date of a person who remained on a certain trajectory. In Philippians 3:19, Paul affirms that some people will indeed remain on the trajectory that ends in their destruction. We know that this must have to do with their final fate, since Paul goes on to talk about how Christ will transform our (i.e. Paul and the faithful Philippians) ‘lowly body to be like his glorious body, by the power that enables him even to subject all things to himself’ (Phil 3:21). This last comment echoes 1 Corinthians 15:35-56, where Paul outlines his belief that believers will be resurrected with imperishable and immortal bodies. This means the contrast in Philippians 3:19-21 is between those who will finally be made immortal on their resurrection and those whose destiny is to be destroyed.

All of this fits with what Paul says elsewhere in his letters using other words such as ὄλεθρος (olethros, ‘destruction’). In 1 Timothy 6:9 ἀπώλεια is used with ὄλεθρος ‘to drive the point home that the ultimate destiny of those who pursue riches is complete and total ruin.’31Mounce, Pastoral Epistles, 532. Though a traditionalist, Mounce is compelled to also say that ‘Their end is total annihilation’.32Ibid. In 2 Thessalonians 1:9, Paul uses ὄλεθρος when referring to how those who had oppressed the Thessalonian church would be punished with eternal destruction. In this respect, in Philippians and 2 Thessalonians, Paul uses the language of destruction when describing what would happen to those who had become enemies of the church. Paul also adapts phraseology from LXX Isaiah 66:1533(the NETS translation of the Greek of the LXX is, ‘For see, the Lord will come like fire, and his chariots like a tempest, to render vengeance with wrath and repudiation with a flame of fire.’ (ἐν φλογὶ πυρός, διδόντος ἐκδίκησιν, (‘in flaming fire, inflicting vengeance’) in 2 Thessalonians 1:8 (ἐν θυμῷ ἐκδίκησιν καὶ ἀποσκορακισμὸν ἐν φλογὶ πυρός (‘the Lord will render his vengeance … in a flame of fire’).34Beale notes that this is ‘the only place in the Old Testament where this combination of terms is found.’ G. K. Beale, 1–2 Thessalonians, (InterVarsity Press: 2003), 189. In Isaiah, God will slay his enemies (66:16) to leave their corpses unburied, to be consumed by worm and fire while being abhorred by the still living righteous (66:23-24). This is evidence that though Paul was willing to draw on the apparent affirmation of universalism from Isaiah 45:23, he also was well aware of Isaiah’s distinction between all those who will be finally slain and those who would live on and worship God. Perhaps Gerald Hawthorne summary statement on the thrust of Philippians 3:19 best captures Paul’s point of view,

For Paul, then, to reject the crucified Christ and live a life not shaped by the diaconal character of Jesus and its cruciform pattern as the sole means of salvation is in effect to reject salvation. It is to lose one’s soul and thus to forfeit life.35Gerald F. Hawthorne, Philippians, revised by Ralph P. Martin, (Thomas Nelson: 2004), 223.

This is all evidence that, like Isaiah, Paul could speak in terms that at first blush appear to show he was a universalist (as in Phil 2:9-11), he continued to maintain a distinction between those who are saved to be made immortal and those who will not.

If I am correct that Isaiah and Paul maintained there will be some who will be finally slain while only a select group of those remaining faithful to God will be saved, then their statements that all will bow and confess cannot be assumed to be an affirmation of universalism. Isaiah and Paul could simply have been affirming that all who a finally saved will bow and confess. It is therefore incumbent on universalists to do more than simply point to Isaiah 45:23 and Philippians 2:10-11 and then conclude they provide clear support for universalism. They must argue for their interpretation of these verses.

I hope that this article will alert my fellow Christians who are universalists that simply citing Isaiah 45:23 and Philippians 2:9-11 is problematic. To do so is to ignore the surrounding context of each passage and is therefore exegetically indefensible. This should shape how we read Isaiah 45:23 and Philippians 2:10-11 are more about who is the ultimate authority deserving to be worshiped than who will be finally saved. For Isaiah, it is YHWH who is Lord overall. There is no other God that should be worshiped.36Ex 20:14; Deut 5:8-9 In Philippians 2, Paul revolutionized this centerpiece of Israelite theology to position Jesus Christ as one who, like YHWH, is Lord overall. Though these two texts have been traditionally cited as support for universalism, when read in context, they prove to be better support for conditionalism.

 

References
1 Unless otherwise indicated, all passages cited will be from the ESV; when citing a passage from the LLX the hyperlink will be for the ESV so I will provide the translation for the LXX in the endnotes. The LXX translation will be NETS, Albert Pietersma and Benjamin G. Wright, eds., A New English Translation of the Septuagint (Primary Texts), (Oxford University Press, 2007).
2 Gregory MacDonald, The Evangelical Universalist: The Biblical Hope that God’s Love Will Save Us All, 2nd ed., (Wipf and Stock: 2012), 67.
3 Timothy D. Carroll, Christ—The Original Matrix: God Face-to-Face, Kindle ed. (Resource Publications: 2020), Kindle locations, 1440-1449.
4 MacDonald, The Evangelical Universalist, 69.
5 e.g. John N. Oswalt, The Book of Isaiah, Chapters 40–66, (William. B. Eerdmans Publishing: 1998), 215; Carl Friedrich Keil and Franz Delitzsch, Commentary on the Old Testament, vol. 7 (Peabody: 1996), 447.
6 Alec Motyer, Isaiah by the Day: A New Devotional Translation, Kindle ed., (Christian Focus Publications: 2011), Kindle loc., 6234-6248.
7 Keil and Franz, Commentary on the Old Testament, 447.
8 Shalom M. Paul, Isaiah 40–66: Translation and Commentary, (William B. Eerdmans Publishing: 2012), 265.
9 I have no training in Hebrew so I consulted Shalom M. Paul’s commentary on Isaiah 40-46 and then consulted an acquaintance who also has expertise in the relevant ancient languages named Stewart James Felker. Paul, Isaiah 40–66: Translation and Commentary, 268. For interaction with Paul see this link to Felker’s Reddit page where he catalogs his discussions of ancient language relevant to eschatology. https://www.reddit.com/user/Prosopopoeia1/comments/17o7frh/comment/kjs8woa/.
10 the NETS translation of the Greek of the LXX is, ‘Israel is being saved by the Lord with everlasting salvation; they shall not be ashamed or disgraced forever’
11 Note that Hebrews 5:9 affirms that Jesus is the source of σωτηρίαν αἰώνιον (eternal salvation) for all who obey him.
12 the NETS translation of the Greek of the LXX is, ‘have they hoped, O Lord, forever—the great, everlasting God,’
13 c.f. LXX Is 25:10, he NETS translation of the Greek of the LXX is, ‘because God will give us rest on this mountain, and Moabitis shall be trodden down as they tread a threshing floor with wagons’
14 Is 26:1-6
15 These two verbs are not the only words that might be used to refer to shame in the OT. However, I will focus my attention on them for the purposes of this discussion. Since I am not trained in Hebrew I will use the transliteration of Hebrew words.
16 kālam is used in 2 Sam 19:3 and bôš appears in 2 Sam 19:5; see also Psalm 40:14; 69:6; 70:2
17 Ezra 9:6; Job 9:3; Psa 35:4; Isa 50:7; 54:5 Jer 6:15; 8:12; 14:3; 22:22; Eze 36:32
18 Is 14:18-19; 66:24
19 c.f. Is 61:7; 65:13; Is 29:22; 43:4
20 Is 49:23; 54:4
21 Smith describes these verbal corrections: ‘A connection between these two paragraphs is created by the repetition of several words: (a) “shame” (bôš) in 45:16, 17 and 45:24; (b) “hide, be secret” (sātar) in 45:15 and 45:19; (c) “there is no other, there is no other” in 45:14, “there is no other” in 45:18, “there is no other God besides me” in 45:21, and “there is no other” (ʾēn ʿôd) in 45:22; (d) “Savior” (môšîaʿ) in 45:15 and 45:21; and (e) “idols” (ṣîr, pesel) in 45:16, 20. God’s act of saving Israel and many people from the nations is a central theme that runs throughout this section.’ Gary Smith, Isaiah 40-66, (Broadman & Holman Publishers: 2009), 268.
22 For instance, see Paul, Isaiah 40–66, 270; Geoffrey W. Grogan, “Isaiah”, in The Expositor’s Bible Commentary: Isaiah, Jeremiah, Lamentations, Ezekiel, ed. Frank E. Gaebelein, (Zondervan Publishing House: 1986), 272; John N. Oswalt, The Book of Isaiah, Chapters 40–66, (William. B. Eerdmans Publishing: 1998), 221.
23 Paul, Isaiah 40–66, 270.
24 Ibid., 168.
25 John D. W. Watts, Isaiah 34-66, revised ed., (Zondervan: 2005), 639.
26 MacDonald, The Evangelical Universalist, 69.
27 sometimes rendered as ‘all humankind’ or ‘all people’
28 William D. Mounce, Pastoral Epistles, (Zondervan: 2000), 532).
29 See BDAG, ‘‘the goal toward which a movement is being directed, end, goal, outcome’ William Arndt et al., A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2000), 998.
30 Gordon D. Fee, Philippians, (IVP Academic: 1999), 162.
31 Mounce, Pastoral Epistles, 532.
32 Ibid.
33 (the NETS translation of the Greek of the LXX is, ‘For see, the Lord will come like fire, and his chariots like a tempest, to render vengeance with wrath and repudiation with a flame of fire.’
34 Beale notes that this is ‘the only place in the Old Testament where this combination of terms is found.’ G. K. Beale, 1–2 Thessalonians, (InterVarsity Press: 2003), 189.
35 Gerald F. Hawthorne, Philippians, revised by Ralph P. Martin, (Thomas Nelson: 2004), 223.
36 Ex 20:14; Deut 5:8-9

A Primer on Philippians 2:9-11

Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.1Unless otherwise indicated quotes from the Bible will be from the ESV.

Philippians 2:9-11

 

The acclamation from every creature in the universe that Jesus Christ is Lord comes as the final scene of the christological drama. It is a coronation scene, at which Christ’s kingly rule is acknowledged by all the cosmic spirit-powers of the universe. These once-hostile powers have been overcome and now render homage to their conqueror. It is universal, but is it salvation? The language is not the language of salvation, nor of reconciliation, but of lordship.

M. Eugene Boring2M. Eugene Boring, ‘The Language of Universal Salvation in Paul’, in Journal of Biblical Literature, 105/2, 282.

M. Eugene Boring had a point.

At first blush, Philippians 2:10-11 may appear to be evidence that Paul was a universalist. However, on closer examination, the passage itself lacks the normal way that Paul speaks of believers being saved.3e.g. see Rom 5:9-10; Phil 1:28; Eph 2:8 To be clear, I am not arguing that since Paul does not utilize such vocabulary in Philippians 2:10-11 then he could not possibly have intended to affirm universalism there. Nevertheless, the point is, since Paul does not utilize such language it is improper for universalists like Boring to simply assert that the ‘”universalism” of vv 11-12 is clear.’4Ibid. It must be argued, not asserted. The purpose of this article is to introduce the reader to some of the exegetical questions that universalists need to address before concluding Paul was affirming universalism in these verses.

One of the features of Philippians 2:10-11 that leads universalists to think Paul was affirming universalism in this passage is his statement that ‘every knee should bow’ (πᾶν γόνυ κάμψῃ) and ‘every tongue confess’ (πᾶσα γλῶσσα ἐξομολογήσηται). There is no doubt that universalists automatically read these clauses as evidence that Paul was saying everyone will worship Jesus. For instance, Andrew Hronich writes,

Paul claims God exalted Jesus so that every knee would bow to Him. My professor, George Hunsinger, was fond of repeating in lectures… that “according to [v.10], the divine/human Jesus, worshiped at first by only a tiny community, will one day be confessed by all the world… The universalistic note here is as remarkable as the distinctions by which it is expressed.”5Andrew Hronich, Once Loved Always Loved: The Logic of Apokatastasis, Kindle ed. (Wipf and Stock Publishers: 2023), Kindle loc., 9932-9944.

Thomas Talbott writes,

When Paul suggested that every tongue would come to confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, he chose a verb that throughout the Septuagint implies not only confession, but the offer of praise and thanksgiving as well.6Thomas Talbott, The Inescapable Love of God, 2nd ed., Kindle ed., (Cascade Books: 2014), Kindle loc., 1389-1400.

John Mortimer follows suit,

Throughout the Old Testament and especially in the Psalms and Isaiah, exomologeomai is used exclusively to denote joyful and voluntary praise.7John Mortimer, The Purest Gospel: The Good News That Everyone Will Be Saved, Kindle ed., (Independently published: 2022), Kindle loc., 757-807.

Julie Ferwada does as well,

It’s crazy to think that anyone would bow in submission to God and give Him acceptable, legitimate praise under coercion on his or her way to everlasting torment.8Julie Ferwerda, Raising Hell: Christianity’s Most Controversial Doctrine Put Under Fire, Kindle ed., (Vagabond Group: 2014), Kindle loc., 2517-2524.

However, digging a little into the language used by Paul has led me to reject this assumption. This may surprise people. After all, is not bowing a knee and confessing in and of themselves acts of worship? Not necessarily. While it is true that the verb Paul used for bow (κάμπτω) can be used with reference to the act of worship,9e.g. LXX 1 Chron 29:20; LXX 2 Chron 29:29; LXX Dan 6:10 [var.]; Rom 11:4, 11 it often does not.10e.g. LXX Jud 5:27; 7:5-6; LXX 2 Kings 1:13; 9:24; LXX Sir 7:23; 38:18; LXX 4 Macc 3:4 When κάμπτω is used to signify the idea of homage to another the phraseology used is often explicit that one is bending to or towards someone.11Joseph H. Hellerman, Philippians, (B&H Academic: 2015), 121. Varner notes that in eleven of the twelve NT uses of the noun for ‘knee’ (γόνυ) ‘are in conjunction with prayer and/or submission to a god.’12William Varner, Philippians: An Exegetical Commentary, Kindle ed., (Fontes Press: 2021), Kindle loc., 1840-1847. However, as with κάμπτω, though γόνυ is used in a context of worship and prayer,13e.g. LXX Gen 48:12; LXX 1 Kings 8:54; 18:42; 19:18; LXX 1 Chron 29:20; LXX 2 Chron 6:13; LXX Ezra 9:5; Mark 15:9; Luke 22:41; Act 9:40; 20:36; 21:5; Rom 11:4 other usages of the noun have nothing to do with worshipping, praying to, or honoring a king or deity.14e.g. LXX Gen 30:3; LXX Deut 28:35; LXX Jud 4:21; 7:5-6; 16:19; LXX 2 Kings 1:13; 4:20; 9:24; LXX Job 3:12; 4:4; LXX Psa 109[108]:24; LXX 35:3; 66:12; Nah 2:10; Heb 12:12 It is always the surrounding context dictating whether the use of γόνυ has to do with prayer, worship or paying homage to another. This means it is a mistake to point to the use of κάμπτω and γόνυ in Philippians 2:10 as if that alone is evidence Paul was saying all will worship or pay homage to Jesus.

To illustrate this, a variant in LXX Daniel 6:10 has Daniel bending his knee in confession to God.

And when Daniel knew that the decree was ordered, he went into his house; and his windows were opened in his chambers toward Jerusalem, and three times in the day he knelt upon his knees (κάμπτων ἐπί τὰ γόνατα αὐτοῦ), and prayed (προσεύχομαι) and gave thanks (ἐξομολογέομα) before his God (ἐναντίον τοῦ θεοῦ αὐτοῦ), as he used to do before.15The English translation of LXX Daniel 6:10 is from Lancelot Charles Lee Brenton’s, The Septuagint Version of the Old Testament: English Translation, (Samuel Bagster and Sons: 1870). I would normally use NETS translation of the LXX but in this case, Brenton’s translation more clearly represents the Greek of the variation in view.

Like Philippians 2:10-11, bending the knee (κάμπτων ἐπί τὰ γόνατα αὐτοῦ) is used with the much-debated word for ‘confess, praise’ (ἐξομολογέομα). However, in this case, Daniel bends the knee ‘before his God’ (ἐναντίον τοῦ θεοῦ αὐτοῦ) and so is praying (προσεύχομαι) to God. It is this context that helps me see why Brenton rendered ἐξομολογέομα.16Sometimes lexical resources will treat ἐξομολογέομα as ἐξομολογέω. For the sake of consistency, I will use the form ἐξομολογέομα when discussing this word as ‘gave thanks’, though the idea of confessing could well also be in view instead. This kind of extra vocabulary provides the kind of context that is missing in Philippians 2:10-11.

In Romans 14:11, Paul does quote verbatim the clause ἐμοί κάμψει πᾶν γόνυ from (‘every knee shall bow to me’) LXX Isaiah 45:23. The retention of ἐμοί (‘to me’) is exactly the kind of additional phraseology required for ‘every knee will bow’ to signify worship or homage will be directed to Jesus. However, in the context of Romans 14, Paul is talking about his fellow believers to whom he wrote. He had in mind how he and they – those who were already believers – would one day bow their knees to Christ in reference to their King. Note, however, when Paul expands the scope to a universal perspective In Philippians 2:10, he drops language denoting the idea of kneeling to someone. Instead, he uses the different construction of ἐν τῷ ὀνόματι Ἰησοῦ πᾶν γόνυ κάμψῃ (‘at the name of Jesus every knee should bow’).

The exact meaning of the prepositional phrase ἐν τῷ ὀνόματι (lit. ‘in the name’) is somewhat unclear. It could mean ‘when the name of Jesus is mentioned’ every knee should bow.17William Arndt et al., A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature, (University of Chicago Press: 2000), 713; C.F.D Moule, An Idiom Book of the New Testament Greek, (University Press: 1953), 78. The use of the phrase could also be a way of saying that the proclamation of Jesus’ name causes people to bow their knees.18Hellerman, Philippians, 121. Neither option means that all who bow do so as an act of worship or paying homage to Jesus.

What about Paul’s statement that ‘every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord’? There is debate about the exact meaning of the Greek word behind ‘confess’, ἐξομολογέομαι. Prominent universalists like David Bently Hart are rather bullish that ἐξομολογέομαι always has the meaning of ‘gladly confess’ and renders the verb as such in his translation of the NT.19See Kieth Gile’s report of Hart’s comment. Hart lauds Thayer’s Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament as ‘the best lexicon for biblical koine’ while denigrating other lexical resources that disagree with him on the meaning of ἐξομολογέομαι. While Thayer’s does list ‘to profess i. e. to acknowledge openly and joyfully’ as a gloss for ἐξομολογέομαι, it is the second of two glosses. Thayer’s lists verses such as Matthew 3:6; Mark 1:5; Acts 19:18; and James 5:16 as instances where ἐξομολογέομα does not have a meaning akin to ‘gladly confess’. What is more, Thayer’s also cites the use of use of ἐξομολογέομα by Plutarch (Antony, 59.5),

At this, Antony was wroth, and Cleopatra said: ‘Thou hast done well, Geminius, to confess (ἐξομολογέομαι) the truth without being put to the torture.’ Geminius, accordingly, after a few days, ran away to Rome. And Cleopatra’s flatterers drove away many of the other friends of Antony also who could not endure their drunken tricks and scurrilities.20The reader should be able to see the Greek text of Plutarch here and the English translation here.

Thayer’s also references Josephus (War. 602),

At this sight his friends, especially those of Tarichae, commiserated his condition; but those that came out of the country, and those in their neighborhood, to whom his government seemed burdensome, reproached him, and bid him produce the money which belonged to them all immediately, and to confess (ἐξομολογέομαι) the agreement he had made to betray them; for they imagined, from the habit in which he appeared, that he would deny nothing of what they suspected concerning him, and that it was in order to obtain pardon that he had put himself entirely into so pitiable a posture.21The reader should be able to see the Greek text of Josephus’s statement here and the English translation here.

Both are examples of the use of ἐξομολογέομαι in contexts where forced confession is in view. There are other examples. It is safe to say that when ἐξομολογέομαι is used in non-biblical literature, it simply refers to acknowledging something to be true. This is especially so when the verb is used with ὅτι (‘that/since’) as it is in Philippians 2:11.

There is an obvious reply from universalists, who might point out in many places in the LXX, ἐξομολογέομαι takes on the meaning of ‘praise’ or ‘thanksgiving’.22Talbott, Inescapable Love, Kindle loc., 1375-1400. To be sure, ἐξομολογέομα was often used to render Hebrew words for ‘praise’ or ‘give thanks’ in the LXX. In the case of Isaiah 45:23, the OT primary source text for Philippians 2:10-11, ἐξομολογέομα translates šābaʿ.23Since I do not know Hebrew I will use the transliteration of Hebrew words. This word does not generally carry the idea of praise or thanksgiving as such. Rather, šābaʿ means “to swear, take an oath”.24William D. Mounce, Mounce’s Complete Expository Dictionary of Old & New Testament Words, (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 2006), 700. It is used for solemn vows or oaths. In any case, the mere fact that ἐξομολογέομα is often used in contexts people does not mean that joy is part of its meaning. The only point I am making here is that such vocabulary is not necessarily used to express the idea that one is gladly swearing allegiance to another. This means one should not simply point to Paul’s use of ἐξομολογέομα to conclude he had ‘joyful confession’ in mind. Rather, one must argue from the context to show why he had that nuance in view.

When Paul quotes ‘every tongue shall confess’’ from LXX Isaiah 45:23 in Romans 14:11 he retained the same phraseology as the OT source text.25Paul changes the word order but this has no bearing on the meaning of the clause As pointed out above, Paul is talking about his fellow believers to whom he wrote. Notice what Paul says just before and after this quotation in Romans 14:10-12.

Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God; for it is written, “As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.” So then each of us will give an account of himself to God.

Paul’s main concern here is with how the Roman believers had fallen into the trap of being judgmental towards each other. His quotation of LXX Isaiah serves as a way to show that they would eventually have to formally explain to God why they had behaved so poorly towards each other. This has more to do with the confession of sin (c.f. Matt 3:6; Mark 1:5; James 5:16) than an act of joyful praise or worship.

However, in Philippians 2:11, Paul changes the phraseology LXX Isaiah 45:23 from ἐξομολογήσεται πᾶσα γλῶσσα τῷ θεῷ (‘every tongue shall acknowledge God’).26This is the translation from NETS, Albert Pietersma and Benjamin G. Wright, eds., “Esaias,” in A New English Translation of the Septuagint (Primary Texts), trans. Moisés Silva, (Oxford University Press: 2007) Brenton’s has ‘every tongue shall swear by God’. The variation in translation has no bearing on the point I am making here. to πᾶσα γλῶσσα ἐξομολογήσηται ὅτι κύριος Ἰησοῦς Χριστὸς (‘every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord’). Paul’s use of the word ὅτι is his way of introducing the content of the confession.27Varner, Philippians, 83. This brings Paul’s use of ἐξομολογέομα close to how this verb was routinely employed in secular literature with reference to acknowledgment of something being true.28I am indebted to Gary Manning, who pointed this out in a FaceBook group that facilitates biblical language majors in the discussion of the finer points of the original languages of the Bible. Furthermore, of the eleven uses of ἐξομολογέομα in the NT, three have to do with acknowledging one’s sin,29Matt 3:6; Mark 1:5; Jame 5:12 while one has to do with disclosing information about one’s normal practices.30Acts 19:18 Given Paul adapted the phraseology of LXX Isaiah 45:23 in Philippians 2:10-11, we have a very good reason to refrain from assuming he used ἐξομολογέομα because it denotes ‘joyful expression’. He adapted the OT source text for his own purposes and concerns in Philippians 2, and so one must show from that context what he intended to convey. This deep dive into the language used by Paul has shown that universalists cannot simply assume the emphasis on bowing a knee and confessing support universalism. It is the surrounding context in both Isaiah 45:23 and Philippians 2:10-11 that will dictate whether such connotations are in view there.

Another relevant question is whether Paul intended Philippians 2:10-11 to be read as a prediction. After noting that in Romans 14:11 Paul applies Isaiah 45:23 to the Father as the one who will judge all, I. Howard Marshall says,

But in Philippians 2 Christ occupies this divine position as judge. The passage is primarily a statement about his supreme position under the Father. Whoever confesses God as Lord must give that same honor to Christ. In other words the point is not that everybody will confess Christ as Lord but that everybody who recognizes God as Lord should also recognize Christ as Lord.31I. Howard Marshall, ‘Does the New Testament Teach Universalism?’ in Christ in our place: the humanity of God in Christ for the reconciliation of the world : essays presented to Professor James Torrance , ed. Trevor A. Hart, et al. (The Paternoster Press: 1989), 318-319. [Emphasis Marshall’s]

In Isaiah 45:23 the Hebrew verbs behind ‘bow’ and ‘swear allegiance’ are in the “imperfect” conjugation. Since I have no knowledge of Hebrew, I am relying on information provided to me by Chris Date. The use of the “imperfect” conjugation means the verbal action in view is incomplete.32An example of the Hebrew word for ‘to swear’ being used in the niphil perfective form is also found in Isaiah 45:23 when God says, ‘I have sworn’. The use of the niphil perfective form presents the verbal action as being complete and so often has the past in view. This conjugation offered the Hebrew author some flexibility. For instance, Date pointed out to me that the “imperfect” conjugation often is used with a future tense sense. In this case, Isaiah 45:23 would be understood as saying all will bow and all will swear allegiance to God. However, the imperfect conjugation can also be used to refer to what would, could, should, may, might, or can happen.33Gary D. Pratico and Miles V. Van Pelt, Basics of Biblical Hebrew Grammar, 2nd ed., (Zondervan: 2007), 130 In these cases, the verb might not be used to predict what will happen in the future. An example of this provided by Date is Exodus 20:9, ‘Six days you shall labor, and do all your work.’ In this case, the use of the imperfect conjugation (‘labor’, ‘do’) does not signal a prediction is being made but rather a statement about an obligation is expressed. Importantly, it is context dictating what nuance is in view.34Ibid.

One can make the same observation about the Greek Paul chose to use when quoting Isaiah 45:23. The LXX translation of Isaiah 45:23 has future indicative verbs,

‘to me every knee shall bow (κάμψει) and every tongue shall acknowledge (ἐξομολογήσεται) God’

Paul follows the LXX in Romans 14:11,

every knee shall bow (κάμψει) to me, and every tongue shall confess (ἐξομολογήσεται) to God.

In context, Paul is referring to believers.35c.f. Rom 14:8, 10 In this case, Paul’s use of the future indicative form of these verbs is explained by his conviction that believers who judge their fellow believers will be required to give an account of their actions on the day of judgment (v11). Of course, believers will indeed pay homage to their King on that day since they are already committed to him as their Lord and Savior.

When it comes to Philippians 2:10-11, however, Paul switches to the aorist subjunctive form of these verbs, ‘should bow’ (κάμψῃ) and ‘should confess’ (ἐξομολογήσηται).36The ESV has simply ‘confess’ and not ‘should confess’, but the modality ‘should’ is implied. Andrew Hronich argues that this supports the universalist reading of this passage,

‘the “should” in Philippians 2:10 is an aorist subjunctive, a definite outcome that will come to pass because of a prior stated action, and thus should not be understood as “you ought to bow, but you might not.” Rather, it means, “you shall bow!”’37Hronich, Once Loved, Kindle loc., 9944-9950.

This is incorrect. Hronich misleads his audience with the assumption that since Christ’s exaltation to the highest position of authority is certain (Paul says it has already happened), then the aorist subjunctive verbs also express that same sense of certainty. This is a misunderstanding of the function of aorist subjunctives. If anything, the default understanding of an aorist subjunctive verb should be that it ‘indicates that all people should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, but not that they actually will do so.’38Varner, Philippians, 82.

I have read several intermediate Koine Greek grammars to double-check how aorist subjunctive verbs function in sentences.39‘The subjunctive is customarily used to express a hope or desire: “I’m calling so that you might know what happened.” Grammarians call it the mood of probability because it represents the action as uncertain but probable. As such, it is closely related to the future indicative. The future, however, indicates what will take place, whereas the subjunctive indicates what may take place.’ David Alan Black, It’s Still Greek to Me: An Easy-to-Understand Guide to Intermediate Greek, Kindle ed., (Baker Academic: 1998. Kindle loc., 1916-1922; ‘The subjunctive is the most common of the oblique moods in the NT. In general, the subjunctive can be said to represent the verbal action (or state) as uncertain but probable … In sum, the subjunctive is used to grammaticalize potentiality. It normally does so in the realm of cognitive probability, but may also be used for cognitive possibility (overlapping with the optative) or volitional intentionality (overlapping with the imperative).; Daniel B. Wallace, Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics: An Exegetical Syntax of the New Testament, (Zondervan: 1996), 461-463; ‘“The subjunctive differs from the future indicative in stating what is thought likely to occur, not positively what will occur.”’ A. T. Robertson, A Grammar of the Greek New Testament in the Light of Historical Research, 3rd ed., Kindle ed., (publication details not given), Kindle locations, 17150-17155; ‘In the indicative mood the speaker presents the action as actual. In the subjunctive mood the speaker presents the action as probable but contingent on existing and known circumstances.’ John D. Harvey, Greek Is Good Grief: Laying the Foundation for Exegesis and Exposition, (Wipf & Stock: 2007), 209; ‘Subjunctive Mood … affirms the possibility that the verbal idea will come to pass. The degree of probability is indicated by context.’ Benjamin Chapman and Gary Steven Shogren, Greek New Testament: Laying the Foundation for Exegesis and Exposition, 2nd ed., revised., (Stylus Publishing, 1994), 209; ‘The subjunctive form is used to grammaticalize a projected realm which may at some time exist and may even now exist, but which is held up for examination simply as a projection of the writer or speaker’s mind for consideration.‘ (italics Porter’s) Stanley E. Porter, Idioms of the Greek New Testament, (JSOT: 1999), 56–57; ‘The subjunctive mood represents the verbal action as indefinite but probable (the mood of probability).’ Andreas J. Köstenberger, Benjamin L. Merkle, and Robert L. Plummer, Going Deeper with New Testament Greek: An Intermediate Study of the Grammar and Syntax of the New Testament, Kindle ed., (B&H Publishing Group: 2016), Kindle loc., 5285-5286.; ‘Whereas the indicative mood is mainly concerned with assertions about reality, the subjunctive mood makes projections about reality. From the perspective of the writer or speaker, the subjunctive mood grammaticalizes contemplating or projecting actions or states. It is common to understand the subjunctive mood as the mood of probability.’ David L. Mathewson and Elodie Ballantine Emig, Intermediate Greek Grammar: Syntax for Students of the New Testament, Kindle ed., (Baker Publishing Group: 2016), Kindle loc., 5228-5236. The use of the aorist subjunctive does not in and of itself signify a definite outcome simply because of a previous stated action. In fact, depending on context and the kind of clause in which the subjunctive verb is used, the subjunctive mood can take on several nuances.40Wallace, Greek Grammar, 462. In the case of Philippians 2:10, the aorist subjunctive verb is part of what is called a ἵνα clause. Even here, there are at least seven basic uses of this construction, meaning one cannot simply assume the use of the aorist subjunctive in Philippians 2:10-11 has a definite outcome in view. Most commentators regard the use of the ἵνα + subjunctive verb construction in these verses as a purpose clause. This would simply mean Paul’s ‘every knee should bow’ and ‘every tongue confess’ was a way of explaining why Jesus has been exalted to the highest position of authority.41c.f. Phil 2:9 It would not mean Paul is predicting absolutely everyone who has lived would bow down to Jesus and acknowledge Jesus as Lord. Rather, Paul is simply elaborating that Jesus is now in a position of authority that was previously thought to belong to God alone. That is, people ought to pay homage to Jesus in the same way as people ought to pay homage to God. This is why God had exalted Jesus after he had humbled himself to die on the cross.

There are a few outliers. Gordon Fee argued the ἵνα + subjunctive verb construction in Philippians 2:10-11 should be regarded as expressing the result of Christ’s exaltation.42c.f. v9, Gordon Fee, Paul’s Letter to the Philippians, (William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company: 1995), 223. Daniel Wallace regards the construction as a purpose-result clause.43Wallace, Greek Grammar, 473-474. In both cases, Paul would be saying that the consequence of Christ’s exaltation will be seen in how all will bend the knee to Him and confess that He is Lord. It is disappointing that Fee refrained from giving a reason for his interpretation of the ἵνα + subjunctive verb construction, as the viability of his reading is dependent on adequate contextual cues to support it. Wallace, however, does offer some commentary on why his reading should be adopted.

Paul here is not declaring only God’s intention in exalting Christ. Much more than that. The apostle is indicating that what God intends he will carry out. The evidence for this is that he is quoting Isa 45:23 here, though weaving it into his text in such a way that he alters it by turning it into a purpose clause (in the LXX it is a declarative statement using future indicatives after ὅτι). Paul quotes this text in Rom 14:11, though there he introduces it with an introductory formula (γέγραπται γάρ) and, consequently, leaves the moods and tenses as they were in the LXX. The point is simply that since Paul is not directly or formally quoting the OT here, but has worked that quotation into his text by making it the purpose of the exaltation, the subjunctive is required after ἵνα. If both in Isa 45:23 and in Rom 14:11 the future indicative is a predictive future, then Paul seems to be using the Isaiah passage to declare that Jesus Christ is the one who will fulfill the prophecy made about Yahweh. If this is an accurate assessment of the future indicative, then Paul in Phil 2:10-11 is either misunderstanding the OT or he is declaring that Jesus Christ is true deity.44Wallace, Greek Grammar, 474.

Notice Wallace is not saying the use of the aorist subjunctive verb form itself signifies a definite outcome as Hronich implies. Rather, Wallace points out Paul’s use of Isaiah 45:23 determines the significance of the ἵνα + subjunctive verb construction. That is, context dictates meaning. Even here, though Wallace recognizes that Paul followed LXX Isaiah 45:23 when quoting that verse in Romans 14:11, he downplays the way Paul chose to depart from the exact phraseology in Philippians 2:10-11. Paul’s decision to utilize the ἵνα + subjunctive verb construction there instead of the future indicative as he had done in Romans 14:11 indicates he was not necessarily affirming that everyone will bow the knee to Jesus and confess he is Lord. Furthermore, given my discussion above of the various reasons why one cannot simply assume Isaiah himself was making a prediction in the first place, Wallace’s appeal to LXX Isaiah 45:23 as the reason why Paul’s use of the ἵνα + subjunctive verb construction appears to be a case where he has kicked the can down the road. Wallace, and anyone who follows him, would first need to establish that Isaiah was making a prediction before concluding Paul’s citation of Isaiah means he was making that all sentient beings who have ever lived will finally pay homage to Christ.

One possible argument universalists might make to support Fee and Wallace’s perspective is to appeal to John 3:16, where the ἵνα + subjunctive verb construction is used.45I have only seen this particular response made on social media posts but it is worth mentioning here for my purposes.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that (ἵνα) whoever believes in him should not perish (aorist subjunctive) but have (aorist subjunctive) eternal life.

The implied argument is since conditionalists accept that John 3:16 speaks to what will happen to those who believe despite the use of the ἵνα + subjunctive verb construction in this verse, then we would be inconsistent when arguing the same construction in Philippians 2:10-11 should not be read as a prediction. However, though Wallace does think the ἵνα + subjunctive verb construction in John 3:16 functions as a purpose-result clause, he makes it clear it is the wider context of John’s Gospel that dictates this.

The fact that the subjunctive is all but required after ἵνα does not, of course, argue for uncertainty as to the fate of the believer. This fact is obvious, not from this text, but from the use of οὐ μή in John 10:28 and 11:26, as well as the general theological contours of the gospel of John.46Wallace, Greek Grammar, 474.

In other words, John goes on to emphasize believers will not die once resurrected,47I have written on this subject here and here. and this is how we know that John 3:16 communicates the idea that believers will not perish. I have never seen any conditionalist argue that the use of the ἵνα + subjunctive verb construction means John 3:16 is a prediction of what will happen. Rather, we cite John 3:16 because we think it is a neat summary of the theme found throughout John that without believing in Christ, people will not live forever but will die. It is not the use of the aorist subjunctive verb per se that tells the reader that believers will live forever. It is the context of John’s broader narrative that tells us this. John 3:16 tells us what should live forever, but John 10:28 and 11:25-26 confirm this will happen.

The reader might notice that I have not commented on the subject of πᾶς (‘all’, ‘every’). I accept that πᾶς is correctly translated in the ESV. In this case, I see no reason to adopt an argument like ‘all does not mean all’, even if other conditionalists or traditionalists might do so. Paul could very well have had all believers in view but not those who are enemies of Christ. Even if universalists establish Paul had genuine worship of the saved is in view, under conditionalism, after all those who reject Christ are destroyed only believers will remain and so only those who would offer worship God will remain. If that is the case, then the argument about whether πᾶς means ‘all’ is moot, at least for my purposes.

I have attempted to highlight several aspects of the language of Isaiah 45:23 and Philippians 2:10-11 that might impinge on how one might interpret these verses. The fact that these technicalities can be read in more than one way means universalists cannot simply quote Philippians 2:10-11 and conclude these verses are clear support for universalism. They must argue their case. They must point to contextual clues for why their reading of these texts should be adopted. For my part, my next article will explain why I think that though these verses may at first glance seem to support universalism, when read in context they do not.

 

References
1 Unless otherwise indicated quotes from the Bible will be from the ESV.
2 M. Eugene Boring, ‘The Language of Universal Salvation in Paul’, in Journal of Biblical Literature, 105/2, 282.
3 e.g. see Rom 5:9-10; Phil 1:28; Eph 2:8
4 Ibid.
5 Andrew Hronich, Once Loved Always Loved: The Logic of Apokatastasis, Kindle ed. (Wipf and Stock Publishers: 2023), Kindle loc., 9932-9944.
6 Thomas Talbott, The Inescapable Love of God, 2nd ed., Kindle ed., (Cascade Books: 2014), Kindle loc., 1389-1400.
7 John Mortimer, The Purest Gospel: The Good News That Everyone Will Be Saved, Kindle ed., (Independently published: 2022), Kindle loc., 757-807.
8 Julie Ferwerda, Raising Hell: Christianity’s Most Controversial Doctrine Put Under Fire, Kindle ed., (Vagabond Group: 2014), Kindle loc., 2517-2524.
9 e.g. LXX 1 Chron 29:20; LXX 2 Chron 29:29; LXX Dan 6:10 [var.]; Rom 11:4, 11
10 e.g. LXX Jud 5:27; 7:5-6; LXX 2 Kings 1:13; 9:24; LXX Sir 7:23; 38:18; LXX 4 Macc 3:4
11 Joseph H. Hellerman, Philippians, (B&H Academic: 2015), 121.
12 William Varner, Philippians: An Exegetical Commentary, Kindle ed., (Fontes Press: 2021), Kindle loc., 1840-1847.
13 e.g. LXX Gen 48:12; LXX 1 Kings 8:54; 18:42; 19:18; LXX 1 Chron 29:20; LXX 2 Chron 6:13; LXX Ezra 9:5; Mark 15:9; Luke 22:41; Act 9:40; 20:36; 21:5; Rom 11:4
14 e.g. LXX Gen 30:3; LXX Deut 28:35; LXX Jud 4:21; 7:5-6; 16:19; LXX 2 Kings 1:13; 4:20; 9:24; LXX Job 3:12; 4:4; LXX Psa 109[108]:24; LXX 35:3; 66:12; Nah 2:10; Heb 12:12
15 The English translation of LXX Daniel 6:10 is from Lancelot Charles Lee Brenton’s, The Septuagint Version of the Old Testament: English Translation, (Samuel Bagster and Sons: 1870). I would normally use NETS translation of the LXX but in this case, Brenton’s translation more clearly represents the Greek of the variation in view.
16 Sometimes lexical resources will treat ἐξομολογέομα as ἐξομολογέω. For the sake of consistency, I will use the form ἐξομολογέομα when discussing this word
17 William Arndt et al., A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature, (University of Chicago Press: 2000), 713; C.F.D Moule, An Idiom Book of the New Testament Greek, (University Press: 1953), 78.
18 Hellerman, Philippians, 121.
19 See Kieth Gile’s report of Hart’s comment.
20 The reader should be able to see the Greek text of Plutarch here and the English translation here.
21 The reader should be able to see the Greek text of Josephus’s statement here and the English translation here.
22 Talbott, Inescapable Love, Kindle loc., 1375-1400.
23 Since I do not know Hebrew I will use the transliteration of Hebrew words.
24 William D. Mounce, Mounce’s Complete Expository Dictionary of Old & New Testament Words, (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 2006), 700.
25 Paul changes the word order but this has no bearing on the meaning of the clause
26 This is the translation from NETS, Albert Pietersma and Benjamin G. Wright, eds., “Esaias,” in A New English Translation of the Septuagint (Primary Texts), trans. Moisés Silva, (Oxford University Press: 2007) Brenton’s has ‘every tongue shall swear by God’. The variation in translation has no bearing on the point I am making here.
27 Varner, Philippians, 83.
28 I am indebted to Gary Manning, who pointed this out in a FaceBook group that facilitates biblical language majors in the discussion of the finer points of the original languages of the Bible.
29 Matt 3:6; Mark 1:5; Jame 5:12
30 Acts 19:18
31 I. Howard Marshall, ‘Does the New Testament Teach Universalism?’ in Christ in our place: the humanity of God in Christ for the reconciliation of the world : essays presented to Professor James Torrance , ed. Trevor A. Hart, et al. (The Paternoster Press: 1989), 318-319.
32 An example of the Hebrew word for ‘to swear’ being used in the niphil perfective form is also found in Isaiah 45:23 when God says, ‘I have sworn’. The use of the niphil perfective form presents the verbal action as being complete and so often has the past in view.
33 Gary D. Pratico and Miles V. Van Pelt, Basics of Biblical Hebrew Grammar, 2nd ed., (Zondervan: 2007), 130
34 Ibid.
35 c.f. Rom 14:8, 10
36 The ESV has simply ‘confess’ and not ‘should confess’, but the modality ‘should’ is implied.
37 Hronich, Once Loved, Kindle loc., 9944-9950.
38 Varner, Philippians, 82.
39 ‘The subjunctive is customarily used to express a hope or desire: “I’m calling so that you might know what happened.” Grammarians call it the mood of probability because it represents the action as uncertain but probable. As such, it is closely related to the future indicative. The future, however, indicates what will take place, whereas the subjunctive indicates what may take place.’ David Alan Black, It’s Still Greek to Me: An Easy-to-Understand Guide to Intermediate Greek, Kindle ed., (Baker Academic: 1998. Kindle loc., 1916-1922; ‘The subjunctive is the most common of the oblique moods in the NT. In general, the subjunctive can be said to represent the verbal action (or state) as uncertain but probable … In sum, the subjunctive is used to grammaticalize potentiality. It normally does so in the realm of cognitive probability, but may also be used for cognitive possibility (overlapping with the optative) or volitional intentionality (overlapping with the imperative).; Daniel B. Wallace, Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics: An Exegetical Syntax of the New Testament, (Zondervan: 1996), 461-463; ‘“The subjunctive differs from the future indicative in stating what is thought likely to occur, not positively what will occur.”’ A. T. Robertson, A Grammar of the Greek New Testament in the Light of Historical Research, 3rd ed., Kindle ed., (publication details not given), Kindle locations, 17150-17155; ‘In the indicative mood the speaker presents the action as actual. In the subjunctive mood the speaker presents the action as probable but contingent on existing and known circumstances.’ John D. Harvey, Greek Is Good Grief: Laying the Foundation for Exegesis and Exposition, (Wipf & Stock: 2007), 209; ‘Subjunctive Mood … affirms the possibility that the verbal idea will come to pass. The degree of probability is indicated by context.’ Benjamin Chapman and Gary Steven Shogren, Greek New Testament: Laying the Foundation for Exegesis and Exposition, 2nd ed., revised., (Stylus Publishing, 1994), 209; ‘The subjunctive form is used to grammaticalize a projected realm which may at some time exist and may even now exist, but which is held up for examination simply as a projection of the writer or speaker’s mind for consideration.‘ (italics Porter’s) Stanley E. Porter, Idioms of the Greek New Testament, (JSOT: 1999), 56–57; ‘The subjunctive mood represents the verbal action as indefinite but probable (the mood of probability).’ Andreas J. Köstenberger, Benjamin L. Merkle, and Robert L. Plummer, Going Deeper with New Testament Greek: An Intermediate Study of the Grammar and Syntax of the New Testament, Kindle ed., (B&H Publishing Group: 2016), Kindle loc., 5285-5286.; ‘Whereas the indicative mood is mainly concerned with assertions about reality, the subjunctive mood makes projections about reality. From the perspective of the writer or speaker, the subjunctive mood grammaticalizes contemplating or projecting actions or states. It is common to understand the subjunctive mood as the mood of probability.’ David L. Mathewson and Elodie Ballantine Emig, Intermediate Greek Grammar: Syntax for Students of the New Testament, Kindle ed., (Baker Publishing Group: 2016), Kindle loc., 5228-5236.
40 Wallace, Greek Grammar, 462.
41 c.f. Phil 2:9
42 c.f. v9, Gordon Fee, Paul’s Letter to the Philippians, (William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company: 1995), 223.
43 Wallace, Greek Grammar, 473-474.
44 Wallace, Greek Grammar, 474.
45 I have only seen this particular response made on social media posts but it is worth mentioning here for my purposes.
46 Wallace, Greek Grammar, 474.
47 I have written on this subject here and here.

Perish the Thought Part 3: Revisiting John 11:25-26

Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live, and everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die. Do you believe this? She said to him, “Yes, Lord; I believe that you are the Christ, the Son of God, who is coming into the world.”1Unless otherwise indicated all quotes of the Bible will be from the ESV. On occasions when I am discussing relevant Greek words and phrasing I may provide my own rendering but this is not intended to suggest errors on the part of the ESV.

I love John’s Gospel.

The reason for this is simple. Somehow, despite penning his narrative with relatively easy to read Greek, John was able to express his theology in profound ways. On nearly every rereading of his narrative I find something new jumping out at me. This is the case with John 11:25-26. I have, in the past, spent some time thinking about these verses and made a few observations here and here.

Since then, I have become more aware of studies into the Greek verbal aspect and how this affects the way we interpret Scripture. I have even attempted to apply this knowledge to my exegesis of Jude 7, which you can read here. Just a few weeks ago a debate was conducted between James White and Leighton Flowers over whether John 6:44 teaches unconditional election.2The debate can be found here. I have very little interest in this debate, but one claim White made about John’s use of the present tense with reference to true believers received some attention by a few Greek scholars who believe this argument betrays a misunderstanding of Greek verbal aspect.3For a brief discussion of the verbal aspect as it relates to his controversy over Greek aspect in the White vs Flowers debate see here. This prompted me to reflect on John’s use of the present tense with reference to believers throughout his narrative. This led me to greater clarity on how John expressed his conviction that not all will accept Jesus and will become immortal. It also gave me insight into how John characterizes those who do reject Jesus and why that is disastrous for them.

Given my past study of John 11:25-26, I was already aware that John used participles in the present tense there. Verse 25 has πιστεύων (pisteuōn, ‘believing’) and verse 26 has two participles, ζῶν (zōn, ‘living’) and πιστεύων (pisteuōn, ‘believing’). Greek participles are complex and I do not have space to describe all the ways they can be used in the Bible.4For those who are interested in introductions to Greek participles can follow the link here and here. It is sufficient to note that the participles I am discussing here are substantive, which means they are acting like a noun. In John 11:25 ὁ πιστεύων (ho pisteuōn) simply means ‘the believing one’ or ‘the one who believes’, (though the ESV has ‘whoever believes’, which is acceptable).5The word ὁ (ho) is just an article that means ‘the’. Its use here is how we know that πιστεύων (pisteuōn, ‘living’) must be acting like a noun here. This is followed by εἰς ἐμὲ (eis eme), which simply means ‘unto me’.

This is where things get interesting. The participle, πιστεύων (pisteuōn) is from the verb πιστεύω (pisteuō), which means ‘to trust’. In his narrative, one of the common ways that John refers to genuine believers is to use a particular construction that utilizes the verb πιστεύω (pisteuō). I shall let some respected NT scholars explain.

Leon Morris,

A very important construction and one that John uses often is that in which he follows the verb “believe” with the preposition eis, which normally means “into”. It is interesting that John uses this preposition rather than en, “in”. In English we normally speak of believing “in” Jesus rather than believing “into” him, but John prefers the more dynamic expression.6Leon Morris, Jesus Is the Christ: Studies in the Theology of John, (William B. Eerdmans Publishing: 1989), 179.

There cannot be the slightest doubt that when John uses the expression pisteuein eis, he is conveying the idea of wholehearted trust in Jesus Christ.7Ibid., 180.

Murray J. Harris,

This distinctive prep. phrase “believe in” depicts the total committal of one’s total self to the person of Christ as Messiah and Lord, something more than an intellectual acceptance of the message of the gospel and a recognition of the truth about Christ, although these aspects are involved. For John, belief involves not only recognition and acceptance of the truth but also adherence and allegiance to Jesus as the Truth (14: 6).8Murray J. Harris, John, Kindle ed., (B&H Publishing Group: 2015), Kindle locations 1647-1650.

It is not that John always used this construction, since John did use the formula with the dative in John 3:15 (ὁ πιστεύων ἐν αὐτῷ, ho pisteuōn en autō, ‘whoever believes in him’). He can even express the idea of wholehearted trust without the use of a preposition at all (e.g. John 5:24, 38; 8:31). John also can combine πιστεύω (pisteuō) with ὅτι (hoti, ‘that’) to refer to facts that are believed (e.g. John 9:18; 11:26; 16:27; 20:31) or in contexts where giving intellectual credence to a statement is in view (e.g. John 2:22; 5: 24, 38, 50; 8: 31).9Ibid., Kindle locations 1640-1643. One could even come to believe through a witness (John 1:7). Nevertheless, John’s frequent use of the πιστεύω + εἰς (pisteuō + eimi) construction stands out as a way he emphasized those who have wholehearted trust in Christ.10There are variations of the construction where it might refer to believing unto his name (John 1:12; 2:23) the Son (3:18; 5:40), Son of Man (9:35), Jesus (12:11), the Light (12:36). Jesus often might simply say ‘believe in me’ (6:35; 7:38; 12:44, 46; 14:1, 12; 16:9; 17:20) or the variation ‘believe in him’) might be used (John as narrator can use this variation but Jesus does as well, see 2:11; 3:16; 4:39; 6:29; 7:38; 12:37, 42.

I wish to point out that in John, believing in Jesus–in the sense of believing propositions about him–is just as important for obtaining eternal life as believing unto him (having wholehearted trust in him). This is seen at various places in John’s narrative. For instance, in John 3, after Nicodemus becomes confused about Jesus’s teaching on the need to be born again, Jesus admonishes him asking, ‘ If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how can you believe if I tell you heavenly things?’ (3:12). Here the verb πιστεύω (pisteuō) is not used as part of the the πιστεύω + εἰς (pisteuō + eimi) construction here. In this context Jesus is talking about understanding and accepting as true propositions he makes about earthly and spiritual things. It is important that Nicodemus does accept Jesus’s claims as being true. Shortly after this, Jesus teaches that wholehearted trust in him (believing unto him) is how one obtains eternal life (3:15-16, 18, 36). Jesus will go on to emphasize the same point using the variations of believing (6:47), believing in Jesus (5:24) and believing unto him (6:40). Believing Jesus’s teachings and wholehearted trust in him are how one obtains eternal life.

Perish the Thought Part 3: Revisiting John 11:25-26This comes together in John 11:25-27. When Jesus says ‘Whoever believes in me’ (11:25) and ‘everyone who … believes in me’ (11:26) he is using the πιστεύω + εἰς (pisteuō + eimi) construction. Jesus is stating that those who have wholehearted trust in him will be resurrected and will never die forever.11Since I have published my article where I discuss the meaning of οὐ μὴ ἀποθάνῃ εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα (ou mē apothanē eis ton aiōna) in John 11:26 I have vacillated between my own reading of the clause and Glenn Peoples’s reading of it. I find his reading (‘not be dead forever’) very attractive as John would then be presenting a strong contrast between eternal life as living forever and the fate of being dead forever. That would fit very well with the CI reading of Matthew 25:46 as presenting eternal life as living forever in contrast with an eternal punishment that amounts to the eternal privation of life. Alas, I am not quite there yet, as I still see elements in John that make me think that my reading of οὐ μὴ ἀποθάνῃ εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα (ou mē apothanē eis ton aiōna) is to be preferred. At the end of verse 26 Jesus asks Martha if she believes what he has just said. This does not involve the πιστεύω + εἰς (pisteuō + eimi) construction but is the simple use of the verb in the question ‘Do you believe this?’ (πιστεύεις τοῦτο;, pisteueis touto?). Likewise, Martha’s reply (11:27) does not use the πιστεύω + εἰς construction. Instead, Martha emphatically says ‘“Yes, Lord; I believe that you are the Christ, the Son of God’. The verb πιστεύω (pisteuō) is used in the perfect active indicative form. This ‘denotes a present state of firm, settled belief, with the previous act of believing implied.’12Murray J. Harris, John, Kindle ed., (B&H Publishing Group: 2015), Kindle locations 1647-1650), Kindle locations, 7004-7007. Carson explains that this ‘reflects the state of her confident trust… Her faith is a rich mixture of personal trust … and of confidence that certain things about Jesus are true’.13D. A. Carson, The Gospel according to John, Kindle ed., (Eerdmans Publishing: 1991), Kindle locations, 8633-18081. This shows that believing in the sense of accepting what Jesus says about himself and believing in the sense of wholehearted trust in him go hand in hand as part of what it means to be a true believer. Though Jesus will later have to remind her of this (11:40), in 11:25-27, John characterizes Martha as one who properly responds to Jesus.

In contrast, John does not characterize all who interact with Jesus in this way. In the Prologue (John 1:1-18) to his narrative where he introduces the main points of his Gospel, he makes it clear that not all received him when Jesus came to them (1:11). Those who did receive him are also described as those who “believe unto” his name (1:12). This qualification is the first use of the the πιστεύω + εἰς (pisteuō + eimi) construction (τοῖς πιστεύουσιν εἰς τὸ ὄνομα αὐτοῦ, tois pisteuousin eis to onoma autou, ‘the ones believeing in his name’) in John and it shows that he viewed the reception and rejection of Jesus in terms of believe and trust in him. If one receives Jesus one believes him and has wholehearted trust in him. If one rejects Jesus then one has chosen to disbelieve him so has not placed wholehearted trust in him.

As the narrative unfolds, John presents characters which exemplify this negative response to Jesus. In John 5, certain Jews had decided to kill Jesus ‘because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God’ (5:18). Later in the same chapter Jesus tells his listeners that though they seek eternal life in the Scripture (5:39), they in fact ‘refuse to come to me that you may have life’ (5:40). They are people who outright refuse to receive Jesus (5:43) and so it is questioned whether they can believe (5:44) the witnesses regarding who Jesus is. Jesus ends with a scathing appraisal on the listeners,

Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father. There is one who accuses you: Moses, on whom you have set your hope. For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe my words? (5:45-47)

Since there is no indication of a change of audience between John 5:18 and 5:33-47, it is safe to say that Jesus is continuing to address the Jews. These Jews do not believe in the sense of accepting the validity of claims about Jesus. This characterisation of the Jewish interlocutors as those who do not receive Jesus and do not believe him follows Jesus’s teaching on the resurrection (5:24-30).

Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life. Truly, truly, I say to you, an hour is coming, and is now here, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live. For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself. And he has given him authority to execute judgment, because he is the Son of Man. Do not marvel at this, for an hour is coming when all who are in the tombs will hear his voice and come out, those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment. I can do nothing on my own. As I hear, I judge, and my judgment is just, because I seek not my own will but the will of him who sent me.

Unlike John 11:25-26, Jesus explicitly says not all will be resurrected to life. Whereas in 11:25 the πιστεύω + εἰς (pisteuō + eimi) construction is used, in 5:24 Jesus says ‘whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me’. In this case John uses the πιστεύω (pisteuō ) + dative noun construction,14The Greek used is ὁ τὸν λόγον μου ἀκούων καὶ πιστεύων τῷ πέμψαντί με (ho ton logon mou akouōn kai pisteuōn tō pempsanti me). ‘Hearing’ (ἀκούων, akouōn) and ‘believing’ (πιστεύων, pisteuōn) are governed by the one article, so ‘hearing and believing’ describes the one person, not one person who hears and another person who believes. which means ‘give intellectual credence to’. This is a reference to the Father, which is not at all surprising given Jesus can impart life to others because, like the Father, he has life in himself (5:21, 26). In this context, the Father is a witness testifying to who Jesus really is (5:37), but Jesus also has the same authority to execute judgment as his Father (5:27). Not all will be resurrected to life; some will only be resurrected to judgment. It is not surprising that John does teach there is a resurrection to judgment since he has already told the Jews who opposed him in 8:21-24 that they would die in their sins if they failed to believe that he is I AM (i.e. God). This means John 11:25-26 presupposes that not all will believe Jesus and wholeheartedly trust him, so not all will be resurrected as believing and living people who will never die again.

As his narrative unfolds, John reminds his audience that not all believe and trust Jesus. While speaking to a crowd about the life found in him, Jesus states that they do not believe (6:35). Using the πιστεύω + εἰς (pisteuō + eimi) construction, he restates his message that those who wholeheartedly trust him will ‘have eternal life’. He ‘will raise him up on the last day’ (6:40). Some in the crowd complain (6:41) as do the disciples (6:67) at his claim to be the source of life. Clearly not all believed (6:64). Many disciples turned their back on him (6:66), though the twelve continue to believe him (6:68-69). One of the major points developed in John 6 is not all will believe and wholeheartedly trust Jesus.

In chapter 10 Jesus again tells the Jews that they do not believe him (10:24-26). Though several of them will come to place their trust in Jesus (see 10:42; 11:45 where the πιστεύω + εἰς (pisteuō + eimi) construction is used) there are others who continue to act in direct opposition to Jesus. There are Jews who report to the Pharisees who, along with the chief priests determine to have Jesus killed in order to prevent more people from placing wholehearted trust in him (11:46-48, the πιστεύω + εἰς (pisteuō + eimi) construction is used again: πάντες πιστεύσουσιν εἰς αὐτόν, pantes pisteusousin eis auton, ‘everyone will believe in him’). We are back at chapter 11 where Martha has been characterized as one who properly responds to Jesus with belief and trust. In this same chapter the Jewish leadership is characterized as those who not only refuse to believe and trust Jesus but seek to prevent others from doing so. John thus presents the characters in his narrative in such a way that he made it clear not all will come to believe Jesus and have wholehearted trust in him. This means that not all will be resurrected as living people who will never die again.

Perish the Thought Part 3: Revisiting John 11:25-26This is not the only way that John uses negative characterization to teach that not all will believe and trust Jesus. In certain places he emphasizes that some will face judgment. Though Jesus does state that he did not come to judge but to save (3:17; 12:47), there is good reason to think there is a time when those who reject him will be judged by him (5:22, 27, 29-30; 12:48), not because he brought them condemnation but because they were already condemned (3:18). Just as John characterizes certain interactions with Jesus as examples of true belief and wholehearted trust he also makes it clear that those rejecting Jesus are in some sense already condemned. One of the clearer statements that people do reject Jesus falls in John 3:17-21.

17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. 19 And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their deeds were evil. 20 For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. 21 But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his deeds have been carried out in God. (Emphasis added.)

Jesus is saying the verdict is already in (αὕτη δέ ἐστιν ἡ κρίσις, hautē de estin hē krisis, ‘this is the judgment’). There are those who love the darkness and not him. This resembles the Prologue to John’s Gospel where we are told that ‘He came to his own, and his own people did not receive him’ (1:5-11). John 3:18 connects wholehearted trust in Jesus (ὁ πιστεύων εἰς αὐτὸν, ho pisteuōn eis auton) with this verdict. ‘Those who do not believe are already condemned’ (ὁ … μὴ πιστεύων ἤδη κέκριται, ho… mē pisteuōn ēdē kekritai). This is not a separate judgment from the one that will take place after the resurrection. It is a rhetorical way of talking about a future event as if it is happening in the present. This literary device is called prolepsis. An excellent example of prolepsis can be found in John Keats’s poem entitled “Isabella” (1820),15See also Joseph Dear’s article on prolepsis.

So the two brothers and their murdered man
Rode past fair Florence

Needless to say, it would be quite alarming if people argued that Keats had in mind a ‘spiritual’ kind of murder because the murdered man is alive whilst riding with the two brothers. The literary device is proleptic in the way it anticipates the future assassination of a still-living character through the use of the past tense (‘rode’). It is a reference to the man as having already been “murdered” (his future fate) at a time when that fate had not yet befallen him. John uses the same kind of literary device when he speaks of a person already having eternal life (3:16, 36, 5:24; 6:47) or being condemned (3:18). The decision to reject Christ now means the wrath of God remains on a person (3:36) and so anticipates the future judgment as if it is a present reality.

In light of this, Jesus’s affirmation that those who “believe unto” him will be resurrected as living ones cannot be seen to apply to all who are resurrected. John did not think all would come to believe and trust in Jesus; therefore, the statement that resurrected believers would be living people who would never die forever cannot apply to those who reject him. To be sure, everyone will be resurrected (5:25, 28-29a). However, John makes a distinction between those who have done good and those who have done evil. Only believers will rise to the resurrection of life (5:29).

Returning to the use of the present tense in John 11:25-26, from a verbal aspect point of view the present tense of the participles ‘lives’ (ζῶν, zōn) and ‘believes’ (πιστεύων, pisteuōn) convey the sense of progression.16See this link for a decent introduction to Greek verbal aspect. That is, the point of view presented by John with the use of the present tense is one of an ongoing process. It is like watching a parade on the television. You don’t see the parade as a whole, but the continual passing by of the participants in the parade. This is why I am always tempted to translate ζῶν (zōn) as ‘living one’ and πιστεύων (pisteuōn) as ‘believing one’, though that can read awkwardly in English. The perspective of an ongoing process provided by the present tense participles makes me think of life in a dynamic sense. Since ζῶν (zōn) and πιστεύων (pisteuōn) are participles that are functioning like nouns they tell you something about the person as one who is actively and ongoingly believing and living. To be sure, John does use other tenses with reference to true believers,17For example, see the use of the aorist tense in the following verses John 1:7; 2:11, 22-23; 4:39, 41, 50, 53, 5:44; 8:24, 30-31; 10:42; 11:15; 11:40, 45; 17:8; 20:8; 20:29. but he chose to use the present tense in 11:25-26, and that does add a nuance to the statement that believers who die and are resurrected are actively living and believing forever.

The use of ὁ ζῶν καὶ πιστεύων (ho zōn kai pisteuōn) in 11:26 is interesting for another reason. John could have just said that those who believe will die, be resurrected (11:25), and live forever (11:26). The inclusion of πιστεύων εἰς ἐμὲ (eis eme pisteuōn, ‘believing unto me’) in 11:26 is surprising because we tend to assume that belief in the eschaton is unnecessary as we will already be saved. But John is emphasizing how we will continue to have wholehearted trust in him after our resurrection. You die entrusting him with your fate and you will be resurrected as one who will forever be that kind of person.

Perish the Thought Part 3: Revisiting John 11:25-26Why add ζῶν (zōn, ‘living’)? After all, οὐ μὴ ἀποθάνῃ εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα (ou mē apothanē eis ton aiōna, ‘never die forever’) sufficiently communicates the idea that resurrected believers will be immortal. In John 4 ζῶν (zōn, ‘living’) is used when Jesus tells a Samaritan woman who could obtain living water (4:10).18The participle ζῶν (zōn, ’living’) is being used as an adjective here but this does not alter what may be drawn from its use here. The idea of ‘living water’ could very well have to do with purification since moving water tends to become clean.19My lecturer at Bible College suggested this in our exegetical class on John 4. However, drinking ‘living water’ means one ‘will never be thirsty again’ as it will be ‘a spring of water welling up to eternal life’ 4:14). The language behind never thirsting again is the οὐ μὴ + εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα (ou mē + ton aiōna) construction that is used in John 11:26 to express the idea of never dying forever. This living water will eternally flow from the resurrected believer so that person will be immortal (see also John 7:38). In John 6, Jesus talks about how he is the living bread (6:48-51). He is living because of the living Father (6:57), who has life in himself and has granted that Jesus has life in himself (5:26). Jesus is thus the way one can live forever (6:51). Coming back to John 11:26, by describing resurrected believers as ζῶν (zōn, ‘living’), John emphasizes that we will be living in the same way as the Father and Jesus are now ζῶν (zōn, ‘living’). It is noteworthy that John refrains from referring to genuine believers who have not yet been resurrected as ζῶν (zōn, ‘living’) people. So, while it it is true that all will indeed come alive at the final resurrection, only believers who have died and resurrected as believers will be resurrected as ζῶν (zōn, ‘living’) people. According to John, those of us who have genuine faith and trust in Christ have eternal life now in a proleptic sense but this will only be realized for us when we are resurrected as immortal people.

If believers are resurrected so they are ζῶν (zōn, ‘living’) people who will never die, what did John think would eventually happen to those who will be resurrected to judgment (5:29)? John 15 gives us a clue. Early in this chapter, Jesus describes one who fails to remain in him (15:1-6).

1 “I am the true vine, and my Father is the vinedresser. 2 Every branch of mine that does not bear fruit he takes away, and every branch that does bear fruit he prunes, that it may bear more fruit. 3 Already you are clean because of the word that I have spoken to you. 4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit by itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in me. 5 I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing. 6 If anyone does not abide in me he is thrown away like a branch and withers; and the branches are gathered, thrown into the fire, and burned.”

Using an extended vine metaphor, Jesus tells his disciples that those who chose to not remain in him are like unproductive branches.20I realize there are people who will argue that this passage does not have to do with the final fate of the lost, but the point of the metaphor is to at least describe what happens to those who do not bear fruit and do not choose to remain in Jesus. The vine metaphor is from the Old Testament where the vine stands for Israel herself.21See, for instance, Isa. 5:1-7; 27:2-6; cf. Ps. 80:8-16; Jer. 2:21; 6:9; 12:10-13; Ez. 15:1-8; 17:5-10; 19:10-14; Hos. 10:1-2; 14:7. G. K. Beale & D. A. Carson, Commentary on the New Testament Use of the Old Testament, (Baker Publishing Group: 2007), 491) Andreas j. Köstenberger observes that John transforms this into a metaphor about Jesus.

whereas the vine’s purpose of existence is to bear fruit for its owner, references to Israel as God’s vine regularly stress Israel’s failure to produce good fruit, issuing in divine judgment … In contrast to Israel’s failure, Jesus claims to be the “true vine,” bringing forth the fruit Israel failed to produce. Thus Jesus, the Messiah and Son of God, fulfills Israel’s destiny as the true vine of God…22Ibid.

Perish the Thought Part 3: Revisiting John 11:25-26Notice how he says ‘whoever abide in me’ (he uses the present participle here, ὁ μένων ἐν ἐμοὶ, ho menōn en emoi) is the one who who bears fruit. However, not abiding in Jesus means one is discarded and withers (15:6). The word behind ‘withers’ is ξηραίνω, which when used with the passive voice (as it is here) means ‘become dry’ or ‘dry up’.23William Arndt, et al., A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature, (University of Chicago: 2000), 684. Is it interesting that John also uses the aorist tense here, which does not convey any idea of the process of drying out. The branch that is detached from the vine is a dead and dry stick. This is the opposite of being those believers who have living water flowing out of them so they themselves are truly living. The wordplay between ‘takes away’ (αἴρω, airei) and ‘prunes’ (καθαίρω, kathairei) helps contrast those who bear fruit and those who do not. Contrary to the universalist position that all will eventually be purified, Jesus is saying that those who remain in him will be ‘cleansed’ (this is a connotation of pruning a plant, though not one which can be pressed too far in this context). This is not what happens to those who fail to bear fruit. Those people are dead and so will be discarded and disposed of in a fire.

All that I discuss above is relevant for how we should interpret John 3:16.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

If believing and trusting Jesus means we become living people instead of becoming dried out branches that are disposed of in a fire, then we have another good reason to think that ‘perish’ (ἀπόλλυμι, apollumi) really does refer to the actual death of those who reject him. Daniel Wallace states that the use of πᾶς ὁ πιστεύων (pas ho pisteuōn; Wallace translates this as ‘everyone who believes’) in John 3:16 should be regarded as a statement of a general and timeless truth (which he calls “gnomic”).24Daniel Wallcace, Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics: An Exegetical Syntax of the New Testament, (Zondervan: 1996) 620. As such, this verse is the perfect verse for conditionalists to cite as a summary of John’s conviction that eternal life can only be obtained through Jesus with the implication that not everyone will finally escape death. As such, this is a prooftext that conditionalists can cite in discussions with both universalists and traditionalists.

 

References
1 Unless otherwise indicated all quotes of the Bible will be from the ESV. On occasions when I am discussing relevant Greek words and phrasing I may provide my own rendering but this is not intended to suggest errors on the part of the ESV.
2 The debate can be found here.
3 For a brief discussion of the verbal aspect as it relates to his controversy over Greek aspect in the White vs Flowers debate see here.
4 For those who are interested in introductions to Greek participles can follow the link here and here.
5 The word ὁ (ho) is just an article that means ‘the’. Its use here is how we know that πιστεύων (pisteuōn, ‘living’) must be acting like a noun here.
6 Leon Morris, Jesus Is the Christ: Studies in the Theology of John, (William B. Eerdmans Publishing: 1989), 179.
7 Ibid., 180.
8 Murray J. Harris, John, Kindle ed., (B&H Publishing Group: 2015), Kindle locations 1647-1650.
9 Ibid., Kindle locations 1640-1643.
10 There are variations of the construction where it might refer to believing unto his name (John 1:12; 2:23) the Son (3:18; 5:40), Son of Man (9:35), Jesus (12:11), the Light (12:36). Jesus often might simply say ‘believe in me’ (6:35; 7:38; 12:44, 46; 14:1, 12; 16:9; 17:20) or the variation ‘believe in him’) might be used (John as narrator can use this variation but Jesus does as well, see 2:11; 3:16; 4:39; 6:29; 7:38; 12:37, 42.
11 Since I have published my article where I discuss the meaning of οὐ μὴ ἀποθάνῃ εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα (ou mē apothanē eis ton aiōna) in John 11:26 I have vacillated between my own reading of the clause and Glenn Peoples’s reading of it. I find his reading (‘not be dead forever’) very attractive as John would then be presenting a strong contrast between eternal life as living forever and the fate of being dead forever. That would fit very well with the CI reading of Matthew 25:46 as presenting eternal life as living forever in contrast with an eternal punishment that amounts to the eternal privation of life. Alas, I am not quite there yet, as I still see elements in John that make me think that my reading of οὐ μὴ ἀποθάνῃ εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα (ou mē apothanē eis ton aiōna) is to be preferred.
12 Murray J. Harris, John, Kindle ed., (B&H Publishing Group: 2015), Kindle locations 1647-1650), Kindle locations, 7004-7007.
13 D. A. Carson, The Gospel according to John, Kindle ed., (Eerdmans Publishing: 1991), Kindle locations, 8633-18081.
14 The Greek used is ὁ τὸν λόγον μου ἀκούων καὶ πιστεύων τῷ πέμψαντί με (ho ton logon mou akouōn kai pisteuōn tō pempsanti me). ‘Hearing’ (ἀκούων, akouōn) and ‘believing’ (πιστεύων, pisteuōn) are governed by the one article, so ‘hearing and believing’ describes the one person, not one person who hears and another person who believes.
15 See also Joseph Dear’s article on prolepsis.
16 See this link for a decent introduction to Greek verbal aspect.
17 For example, see the use of the aorist tense in the following verses John 1:7; 2:11, 22-23; 4:39, 41, 50, 53, 5:44; 8:24, 30-31; 10:42; 11:15; 11:40, 45; 17:8; 20:8; 20:29.
18 The participle ζῶν (zōn, ’living’) is being used as an adjective here but this does not alter what may be drawn from its use here.
19 My lecturer at Bible College suggested this in our exegetical class on John 4.
20 I realize there are people who will argue that this passage does not have to do with the final fate of the lost, but the point of the metaphor is to at least describe what happens to those who do not bear fruit and do not choose to remain in Jesus.
21 See, for instance, Isa. 5:1-7; 27:2-6; cf. Ps. 80:8-16; Jer. 2:21; 6:9; 12:10-13; Ez. 15:1-8; 17:5-10; 19:10-14; Hos. 10:1-2; 14:7. G. K. Beale & D. A. Carson, Commentary on the New Testament Use of the Old Testament, (Baker Publishing Group: 2007), 491)
22 Ibid.
23 William Arndt, et al., A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature, (University of Chicago: 2000), 684.
24 Daniel Wallcace, Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics: An Exegetical Syntax of the New Testament, (Zondervan: 1996) 620.