How the ECT lens of G.K. Beale distorts his interpretation of 2 Thessalonians 1:9

Introduction:

G.K. Beale is renowned for his scholarship in the area of NT exegesis, especially his work on Revelation. I regularly consult his literature on the NT when investigating the finer points of NT Greek. In his commentary on the Thessalonian letters, Beale gives some space to discuss the meaning of 2 Thessalonians 1:9. Much of his discussion is aimed at answering the question of whether Paul meant to convey that unbelievers will be ‘annihilated at the final judgement’ or suffer an ‘everlasting, conscious suffering’.1G.K. Beale, 1–2 Thessalonians, (InterVarsity Press: 2003), 187. Beale concludes Paul was teaching the separation view of ECT (eternal conscious torment) in this verse. This article aims to evaluate his reasons for that conclusion.

The meaning of ὄλεθρος (olethros):

Interestingly, Beale finds that Paul’s use of ὄλεθρος in other passages is not determinative for understanding the use of the noun in 2 Thessalonians 1:9.21 Cor 5:5; 1 Thess 5:3; 1 Tim 6:9 He mentions that ὄλεθρος can refer to physical death,3LXX 1 Kings 13:34; Ezek 14:16–18; 3 Macc 6:30, 34 and the defeat of one nation by another.4Jer 48:3; 51:55; Obad 1:13 He gives more attention to the use of the phrase ὄλεθρον αἰώνιον (‘eternal destruction’) in 4 Maccabees 10:15:

By the blessed death of my brothers and the eternal destruction of the tyrant (τὸν αἰώνιον τοῦ τυράννου ὄλεθρον) and the praiseworthy life of piety, I will not renounce my noble brotherhood.5Unless otherwise indicated quotations from the LXX will be from The Lexham English Septuagint.

Beale appeals to other statements in 4 Maccabees to show that ὄλεθρον αἰώνιον (‘eternal destruction’) ‘is defined by the context not as annihilation but as unending suffering.’6Beale, 1–2 Thessalonians, 188. To support this claim, he highlights that Antiochus is said to ‘endure, by divine justice, eternal torture by fire’ (4 Macc 9:9),7Unless otherwise indicated, the English translation of the LXX will be from LES. and ‘perpetually endure tortures’ (4 Macc 10:11). The tyrant is told that God has ‘reserved divine justice for you, constant and eternal fire and tortures’ (4 Macc 12:12).8Beale, 1–2 Thessalonians, 188.

Rethinking Hell contributor, James Harding, has published an article on 4 Maccabees here. Harding presents a case for the perspective that 4 Maccabees does not offer support for traditionalism. This is a challenge to Beale’s position. A full evaluation of Harding’s work is beyond the scope of this article so I will leave it to the reader to evaluate Harding’s work. For the purposes of this article I would like to focus on Beale’s methodology employed in his commentary on 2 Thessalonians. Ironically, his appeal to the context of 4 Maccabees 10:15 to clarify the meaning of ‘eternal destruction’ is a tacit admission that the phrase itself is ambiguous. That is, Beale knew he could not simply assert that the mere use of the phrase ‘eternal destruction’ justifies a traditionalist reading of 4 Maccabees 10:15. He knew that he had to cite other statements made by the same author to establish the meaning of that phrase. The problem is Paul does not use similar language anywhere in his literature. So, even if the reader remains unconvinced by James Harding’s article on 4 Maccabees, Beale still has a burden to show that Paul used ὄλεθρον αἰώνιον (‘eternal destruction’) in the same way as the author of 4 Maccabee.

Beale is also mistaken that 4 Maccabees 10:15 is the only relevant example that could illustrate what Paul meant by ὄλεθρον αἰώνιον (‘eternal destruction’). He overlooks a key entry in BDAG, which lists Testament of Reuben as a text using a combination of these words in the larger phrase ὄλεθρον Βελίαρ καὶ ὄνειδος αἰώνιον (‘the eternal destruction of Beliar and an eternal disgrace’).9BGAD, s.v. “ὄλεθρος.” For the critical-text that has this variant see Robert Henry Chalrles, The Greek Versions of the Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs, (Oxford University Press: 1960), 12. BDAG juxtaposes the citation to the Testament of Reuben 6:3 with 2 Thessalonians 1:9. The gloss given is ‘eternal death’. Αἰώνιος (aiōnios) is taken to modify ὄλεθρος even though it falls at the end of the sentence. The phrase can be taken as an example of the two words being used to refer to eternal destruction. The Testament of Reuben is part of the larger body of work called the Twelve Testaments of the Patriarchs. The authorship of the Testaments is debated. The corpus itself contains interpolations from Christians and (like the Bible) there are more than one versions of the Greek text of the Testaments. Nevertheless, it is possible to obtain a general understanding of what is meant by ‘eternal destruction’.

Whereas 4 Maccabees contains language that does prima facie refer to eternal torture, the same is not the case with the Twelves Tetaments. The only verse that comes close is Testament of Asher 5:6, which refers to souls being harassed after people have died. The Greek word used here is βασανίζω, which can refer to torture; however, the text lacks an explicit statement regarding the duration of this harassment. In contrast, there are statements that the righteous will enter into eternal life (Testament of Asher 5:6). Obtaining eternal life is how ‘one wards off death’ (Testament of Asher 5:2). Meanwhile, the people of Sodom are said to have ‘perished forever’ (Testament of Asher 7:1). The verb here is ἀπόλλυμι (apollumi), which is used throughout the testaments to refer to the killing of people. Finally, Treatment of Benjamin 7 describes the fate of Cain after he slew his brother Abel. Cain is punished with 7 punishments, the last of which is being ‘deprived of life’ (7:4). In the Testaments the righteous obtain eternal life so forever ward of death, while the unrighteous are deprived of life.

Beale may not have been aware of the use of ὄλεθρον αἰώνιον in the Testament of Reuben when he wrote his commentary on the Thessalonian letters, but it was not at all difficult to locate, given BDAG explicitly refers to it in its entry on ὄλεθρος. Beale could have located this text with a basic search of the lexica available to him. His failure to acknowledge this text mirrors his tendency elsewhere in his commentary on 2 Thessalonians 1:9 to gravitate towards evidence that supports a traditionalist reading of that verse.

In order to support his reading of 2 Thessalonians 1:9, Beale discusses a connection to LXX Isaiah 66.

This understanding of everlasting destruction is supported also by noting that Paul derives the phrase “in a blazing fire, giving vengeance” (en pyri phlogos didontos ekdikēsin; in blazing fire.… He will punish in NIV) from Isaiah 66:15: “the Lord will render his vengeance … in a flame of fire” (apodounai … ekdikēsin … en phlogi pyros), the only place in the Old Testament where this combination of terms is found. This is noteworthy because only nine verses later comes the well-known depiction of those who have been judged—“their worm will not die, nor will their fire be quenched” (Is 66:24)—a clear reference to an unending punishment of conscious beings.10Beale, 1–2 Thessalonians, 189.

While Beale correctly notes that LXX Isaiah 66:15 is a relevant OT source text for the language of 2 Thessalonians 1:8, he fails to mention that the context of the source text explicitly has to do with the death of God’s enemies. To illustrate this, we can follow Beale’s method when discussing LXX 4 Maccabees 10:15 and read LXX Isaiah 66:15 in its immediate context of LXX Isaiah 66:15-17, 23-24:

For look, the Lord will come like a fire, and his chariots will come like a storm, to render his vengeance in wrath and his utter rejection in a flame of fire. For the whole earth will be judged by the fire of the Lord, and all flesh will be judged by his sword; there will be many casualties by the Lord. “Those who cleanse and purify themselves for the gardens and who eat swine’s flesh and abominable things and the mouse in the doorways will be destroyed all at once,” said the Lord.

And this will happen: All flesh will come to bow down before me month after month and Sabbath after Sabbath in Jerusalem,” said the Lord. “And they will go out and see the corpses of the humans who transgressed against me, for their worm does not die, and their fire will not be quenched, and they will become a spectacle for all flesh.”

Note the emphasis on the casualties. They are slain. Their corpses are left unburied, and open the elements. This is not a context in which the survival of those being punished is in view. Yet Beale ignores this completely. His assertion that the statement ‘their worm will not die, nor will their fire be quenched’ is ‘a clear reference to an unending punishment of conscious beings’ flies in the face of the evidence. Beale is inconsistent in how he appeals to the literary context of LXX 4 Maccabees 10:15 to clarify its meaning while ignoring entirely the literary context of LXX Isaiah 55:15 and 24. He follows sound exegetical practice when discussing a verse that can be seen as support for ECT but fails to apply the same process when discussing passages that do not support his view of hell.

Punishment as separation?

Beale thinks that 2 Thessalonians 1:9 teaches the final punishment of unbelievers is their eternal separation from God.

In 1:9 Paul defines this ongoing punishment as being separated from close relationship with God, “destruction in the sense of deprivation of the Lord’s presence” (Williams 1992:116). Unbelievers do not cease to exist because of God’s final judgment, but they are banned from ever existing in his presence (Richard 1995:308 rightly observes that the double use of from highlights not extinction of existence but a “ruin” that is defined as continued existence separate from Christ and lasting forever). If Paul had intended to convey a notion of annihilation, he could have merely said, they will be punished with everlasting destruction, without mentioning that those judged would be excluded from God’s presence. Thus, the punishment “fits the crime,” in that those who refuse to know God (1:8) and want to be separate from him in this life will be punished by being separated from God in the next life.11Beale, 1–2 Thessalonians, 188–189.

Ὄλεθρος does not mean ‘separation’ or ‘deprivation’ in any other context in ancient Greek literature.12I have consulted the major lexica I own, including BGAD, s.v. “ὄλεθρος.”; BrillDAG, s.v. “ὄλεθρος.”; Louw-Nida, s.v. “ὄλεθρος.”; LSJ, s.v. “ὄλεθρος.”; and, CGL, s.v. “ὄλεθρος.” The noun certainly does not take this meaning in the three other instances Paul uses it, and it does not take on this meaning in the LXX. If Paul were to have used ὄλεθρος to denote a sense of destruction as separation or deprivation, then it would be a sui generis use of the word. This would demand the provision of indisputable evidence that Paul used this noun in a novel way.

Beale quotes David Williams and Earle Richard as support for his assertion. Neither of them offer a compelling reason to support Beale’s position. Their position that exclusion is in view is based on several lines of arguments. Williams points to Ephesians 2:12 (‘remember that you were at that time separated from Christ’) as evidence of a theme of separation from Christ in Paul’s theology. However, that is a different context entirely. It does not follow that since Paul described people as being separated from Christ before their salvation that he used ὄλεθρον αἰώνιον (‘eternal destruction’) to refer to the eternal separation of those suffering the final punishment. Besides, in Ephesians 2:12 Paul uses the word χωρίς (chōris), a word that usually denotes the notion of separation . This word is not used in either of the Thessalonian epistles. Instead, the preposition ἀπό (apo) does all the work for the traditionalist reading of 2 Thessalonians 1:9.

Williams also uncritically appeals to ἀπό as if it can only possibly mean ‘away from’ in this context and approvingly of the NIVs unjustifiable rendering of ἀπό as ‘shut out from’. Richard does cite Isaiah 2:10, which is commonly thought to be an OT source text for Paul’s language in 2 Thessalonians 1:9. Isaiah 2:10 reads as,

Enter into the rock and hide in the dust from before the terror of the Lord, and from the splendor of his majesty.

 

Richard fails to explain how Isaiah 2:10 supports a separation version of ECT. The implied argument is since the people are told to hide into caves then the idea of being in a place that is entirely removed from God justifies NIV’s rendering of ἀπό as ‘shut out from’ and the separation interpretation of 2 Thessalonians 1:9 generally. The LXX renders Isaiah 2:10 as ἀπὸ προσώπου τοῦ φόβου κυρίου (‘from the presence of the fear of the Lord’). To be sure, the preposition ἀπό is well capably of denoting the notion of separation of a person from another person. Yet, all of the major translations of the LXX refrain from rendering LXX Isaiah 2:10 in a way that comports with the notion of ‘shut out from’.

LEH

And now, enter into the rocks and hide in the earth from the face of the fear of the Lord and from the glory of his strength, when he rises to shatter the earth.

NETS

And now enter into the rocks, and hide in the earth, from before the fear of the Lord and from the glory of his strength, when he rises to crush the earth.

Brenton

Now therefore enter ye into the rocks, and hide yourselves in the earth, for fear of the Lord, and by reason of the glory of his might, when he shall arise to strike terribly the earth.

Rethinking Hell contributors Ronnie Demler and William Tanksley have discussed Paul’s use of ἀπό in an article here. They have shown how traditionalists misread Isaiah 2:10 by pointing out that people depicted there ‘are not hiding in a place separated away from their terror; they are hiding because of the presence of their terror.’ Demler and Tanksley are not alone in recognizing this.13See Graham S. Ogden and Jan Sterk, A Handbook on Isaiah, (United Bible Societies: 2011), 95; Gary V. Smith, Isaiah 1–39, (B & H Publishing Group: 2007), 139; Geoffrey W. Grogan, “Isaiah,” in The Expositor’s Bible Commentary: Isaiah, Jeremiah, Lamentations, Ezekiel, ed. Frank E. Gaebelein, (Zondervan Publishing House: 1986), 37.

Finally, it is worth noting Richard Ottley’s comments on the meaning of ἀπὸ προσώπου:

ἀπὸ προσώπου] A literal rendering of Heb. מפני, which is used almost as a simple preposition, sometimes meaning little more than ‘because of’: here the original meaning is hardly lost.14Richard R. Ottley, The Book of Isaiah according to the Septuagint, (Cambridge University Press: 1906), 113.

This supports Demler and Tanksley’s reading of Isaiah 2:10. The focus is on hiding because of fear of God’s punishment. One cannot be separated from their own emotions in a locative way. This being so, the mere fact that Isaiah 2:10 is the source for Paul’s language in 2 Thessalonians 1:9 is insufficient grounds for concluding that his use of ἀπὸ there should be regarded as denoting separation.

Beale’s favorable quotations of Williams and Richard without critical discussion suggests a willingness to only gather evidence that support the separative ECT reading of 2 Thessalonians 1:9. An example of this is seen in how Beale states that:

Richard … rightly observes that the double use of from highlights not extinction of existence but a “ruin” that is defined as continued existence separate from Christ and lasting forever.15Beale, 1–2 Thessalonians, 188–189.

Neither Beale nor Richard explain why the double use of ἀπὸ denotes a ‘continued existence separate from Christ’. There is no provision of examples from undisputed texts showing how the dual use of ἀπὸ was a typical way separation was expressed using that preposition. It is merely asserted. This is not a compelling reason to adopt Beale’s reading of 2 Thessalonians 1:9. I contend that he cites this argument because of his intention to show that the ECT reading of this verse has merit. That Beale can state ‘Isaiah’s phrase underscores that idolaters will be forced to separate themselves from God’s presence at the time of judgment’16Beale, 1–2 Thessalonians, 189. just after discussing Isaiah 66 where the corpses of God’s slain enemies speak to a mindset of an intention to marshal only the evidence that supports his view of hell.

Conclusion:

The case has been made that Beale does not follow the evidence when interpreting a verse like 2 Thessalonians 1:9. He is a traditionalist who wears his ECT lens when discussing this verse. It shows through in the way he omits even discussing aspects of Isaiah 66 that clearly mitigates against his view of hell. It shows through even as he uncritically cites other authors who share his view of hell. Beale has earned his reputation as a top NT scholar. Unfortunately, when it comes to a hell proof text like 2 Thessalonians 1:9, his ECT glasses lead him into eisegesis of that verse.

References
1 G.K. Beale, 1–2 Thessalonians, (InterVarsity Press: 2003), 187.
2 1 Cor 5:5; 1 Thess 5:3; 1 Tim 6:9
3 LXX 1 Kings 13:34; Ezek 14:16–18; 3 Macc 6:30, 34
4 Jer 48:3; 51:55; Obad 1:13
5 Unless otherwise indicated quotations from the LXX will be from The Lexham English Septuagint.
6 Beale, 1–2 Thessalonians, 188.
7 Unless otherwise indicated, the English translation of the LXX will be from LES.
8 Beale, 1–2 Thessalonians, 188.
9 BGAD, s.v. “ὄλεθρος.” For the critical-text that has this variant see Robert Henry Chalrles, The Greek Versions of the Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs, (Oxford University Press: 1960), 12.
10 Beale, 1–2 Thessalonians, 189.
11 Beale, 1–2 Thessalonians, 188–189.
12 I have consulted the major lexica I own, including BGAD, s.v. “ὄλεθρος.”; BrillDAG, s.v. “ὄλεθρος.”; Louw-Nida, s.v. “ὄλεθρος.”; LSJ, s.v. “ὄλεθρος.”; and, CGL, s.v. “ὄλεθρος.” The noun certainly does not take this meaning in the three other instances Paul uses it, and it does not take on this meaning in the LXX.
13 See Graham S. Ogden and Jan Sterk, A Handbook on Isaiah, (United Bible Societies: 2011), 95; Gary V. Smith, Isaiah 1–39, (B & H Publishing Group: 2007), 139; Geoffrey W. Grogan, “Isaiah,” in The Expositor’s Bible Commentary: Isaiah, Jeremiah, Lamentations, Ezekiel, ed. Frank E. Gaebelein, (Zondervan Publishing House: 1986), 37.
14 Richard R. Ottley, The Book of Isaiah according to the Septuagint, (Cambridge University Press: 1906), 113.
15 Beale, 1–2 Thessalonians, 188–189.
16 Beale, 1–2 Thessalonians, 189.

Separation From God Does Not Negate Annihilationism

Even if hell is separation from God, that does not mean that evangelical conditionalism is false. It’s not even a meaningful argument against it.

It should be relatively straightforward as to why this is. God is the creator of all life, apart from his own life of course, and he is the sustainer of it all. No one lives, in any sense, apart from him sustaining them.

That really is the main point of it all.

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Why Eternal Conscious Hell Diminishes God’s Holy Hatred Of Sin

It has long been a common argument against evangelical conditionalism (i.e. annihilationism), and for eternal conscious hell, that the former diminishes God’s holiness by making sin less serious. This has come up all the more since Kirk Cameron first publicly announced his sympathies for the annihilationist view.

This argument for eternal torment is not only ineffective, but counterproductive. It backfires. Not only is it an extrabiblical argument, the kind of argument that is often called out as inappropriate when made by conditionalists (including Kirk Cameron), but it also highlights a major weakness of the traditional view:

Eternal conscious hell is the only view of hell in which God keeps sin as part of his creation for all eternity.

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Death Does Not Mean Separation In The Bible – Part 2

In Part 1, we went over the meat of why we should deny the claim that death means separation in the Bible. Not that there is never a connection between death and separation, and not that death is never used metaphorically, but that this whole model has both specific problems and a lack of any actual biblical basis to begin with.

The following three passages are the most likely to establish a biblical basis, and so we will look at why they fail to do so.

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Death Does Not Mean Separation In The Bible – Part 1

Death does not mean the separation of two things. It does not mean this in the Bible or anywhere else. The claim that it does mean separation in the Bible is a cliche in Christian theological circles, but one built on neither the biblical text nor, for that matter, the normal and literal meaning of words.

That is not to say that there is never a relationship between separation and death. Even on Earth, regarding physical death, if someone on life support was separated from the machinery that kept their body alive while they healed, they would die. But even then, the death is not just another name for the separation that occurs. Both entities are equally separated, but only one of them dies because in situations like that, separation causes death. It is not the death itself.

The Bible has examples like that, as well as other instances of death that are assumed to be about separation that just aren’t.

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The Cop-Out of Calling Eternal, Fiery Torture a “Caricature” of Eternal Conscious Hell

Some may wonder why I have such a bone to pick with what I sometimes call the modern, metaphorical view of eternal conscious hell. 1 What I refer to as the modern, metaphorical view of eternal conscious hell is the general view of eternal conscious hell that denies literal fire of any sort, denies that God is actively torturing the wicked, and instead mainly sees hell as the natural, internal turmoil that occurs within the heart of a wicked person when they are cut off from God (who they hate anyway). Some variations, like what has become popular in Eastern Orthodox circles, say that the torment is from the opposite of separation from God, and is the internal turmoil of sinners who have to spend eternity in the loving (not wrathful) presence of the God they hate. For our purposes these views are substantially equivalent. After all, what is so bad about this view? Isn’t it a better view to hold than the actually-traditional view of hell as a divine torture chamber, where God burns the wicked alive forever and fills their bodies and souls with torment beyond measure out of his unending and untamable wrath? It certainly is much more philosophically and theologically justifiable, right?

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References
1 What I refer to as the modern, metaphorical view of eternal conscious hell is the general view of eternal conscious hell that denies literal fire of any sort, denies that God is actively torturing the wicked, and instead mainly sees hell as the natural, internal turmoil that occurs within the heart of a wicked person when they are cut off from God (who they hate anyway). Some variations, like what has become popular in Eastern Orthodox circles, say that the torment is from the opposite of separation from God, and is the internal turmoil of sinners who have to spend eternity in the loving (not wrathful) presence of the God they hate. For our purposes these views are substantially equivalent.

The Not-So-Traditional View: Does Your Particular Belief About Hell Really Have Church History On Its Side? – Part 5

As we have seen in the previous parts of this series, the modern, metaphorical view of hell has a weak historical pedigree. Of course, it also has no biblical leg to stand on. 1 For more on the profound weaknesses of the modern, metaphorical view, see “The Many and Varied Problems with the Modern, Metaphorical View of Eternal Conscious Hell“. But church history is the strongest argument that the doctrine of eternal conscious hell has. Therefore, the more it can be shown that the historical view of eternal conscious hell entailed physical torture in (typically) literal fire and God’s retributive wrath and vengeance, across the centuries and across the various traditions within Christendom, the more that any foundation for the more palatable forms of eternal conscious hell lose any appeal whatsoever.

At least annihilationism – and universalism, to be fair – have some notable early church presence.  And at least annihilationists don’t pretend to be part of the dominant tradition in the first place.
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References
1 For more on the profound weaknesses of the modern, metaphorical view, see “The Many and Varied Problems with the Modern, Metaphorical View of Eternal Conscious Hell“.

The Not-So-Traditional View: Does Your Particular Belief About Hell Really Have Church History On Its Side? (Part 4)

It has been a while since I initially published Part 1, Part 2, and Part 3 of the series “The Not-So-Traditional View: Does Your Particular Belief About Hell Really Have Church History On Its Side?” I intentionally structured it such that Parts 1-3 made a full, complete narrative, and yet it could also be expanded upon later. Not surprisingly, this topic has only become more relevant as time has gone by.

I began this series in order to tackle the modern, metaphorical view of eternal conscious hell, i.e. the variations that attempt to remove the most uncomfortable elements of the traditional view of hell without sacrificing its eternal, conscious nature. I have no good things to say about this collection of views (see notes below for more on that). 1 For a detailed case against the modern, metaphorical view, see “The Many and Varied Problems with the Modern, Metaphorical View of Eternal Conscious Hell“. For more on the version increasingly held in Eastern Orthodox circles, where both righteous and wicked are in heaven with God and his love (“love” used very loosely) torments the wicked because they hate him, see Part 3 of this series. See also “The Modern Eastern Orthodox View and the Hellfire of God’s Love“. None whatsoever.

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References
1 For a detailed case against the modern, metaphorical view, see “The Many and Varied Problems with the Modern, Metaphorical View of Eternal Conscious Hell“. For more on the version increasingly held in Eastern Orthodox circles, where both righteous and wicked are in heaven with God and his love (“love” used very loosely) torments the wicked because they hate him, see Part 3 of this series. See also “The Modern Eastern Orthodox View and the Hellfire of God’s Love“.

More Reasons Why Genesis 2:17 Is Not Good Evidence For “Spiritual Death”

A Refresher On The Significance of Genesis 2:17 Regarding “Death” and Hell

Genesis 2:17 is one of the most significant passages regarding the Bible’s teachings on death and its connection to what hell is like. This is because many traditionalists argue that death language in the Bible is meant metaphorically to describe a conscious state of being separated from God, rather than becoming like a corpse. This is often referred to as “spiritual death.” And Genesis 2:17 stands out because it is arguably the only passage in the Bible that could be seen as actually tying death language to conscious separation from God (when cross-referenced with the events of Genesis 3, that is).

Other passages that are commonly cited to prove that death means conscious separation from God, such as Ephesians 2:1, make no actual reference to separation from God. It is assumed that being dead means being conscious while separated from God, and this is then read back into the passage to show that the passage teaches that death means being conscious while separated from God. Don’t believe me? Read Ephesians 2:1 (and the surrounding verses) and then tell me where it gives any definition of the word “dead” at all. 1 There is also another metaphorical interpretation of passages like Ephesians 2:1, sometimes used in Reformed circles, which says that being “dead” describes one’s inability to seek or know God apart from regeneration. This view has some of the same problems, since you must define “dead” apart from the text and read this metaphorical meaning back in. But this alternative view does not challenge annihilationism, since its metaphorical meaning of death cannot describe the punishment of the damned in hell. For more on this, see “A Common Reformed Interpretation of Ephesians 2:1 Negates A Common Argument Against Annihilationism“.

Genesis 2:17 is different, at least on the surface, because there is an actual line of reasoning as to what the passage describes and its use of death language. Therefore, this idea that the Bible is using death language to mean conscious separation from God relies heavily (or even exclusively) on Genesis 2:17. 2 The one other passage in the same class as Genesis 2:17 is the parable of the prodigal son in Luke 15:11-31. For more on this, see “Prolepsis and Hell: A Matter of Life and Death – Part 3“.

Key Things To Take Into Account

The Following Is In Addition To Previous Rethinking Hell Material

The core arguments for why this is not a good interpretation of Genesis 2:17 have previously been covered in past Rethinking Hell resources, most notably in Peter Grice’s 2017 article on this passage, “Muerte Espiritual Una Concisa Explicación de la Muerte en Génesis 2.17 y Romanos 6.23“. What I will do below is give a brief overview of these arguments, and then give additional reasons to really drive the point home. Genesis 2:17 is not warning of conscious separation from God. It is not defining death in any way that is materially different from what happens to the body (but not the soul – Matthew 10:28) of a person who dies in this life.

The Traditionalist Case From Genesis 2:17 Is Refuted So Long As Physical Death Is A Reasonable Interpretation

For the Genesis 2:17 argument for eternal conscious hell to fail, it is not necessary that we show that so-called spiritual death, i.e. conscious separation from God, cannot be in view in this passage.

I will attempt to do this, or at least come close to doing this by making a case that we really shouldn’t consider the spiritual death interpretation to even have a reasonable chance of being correct.

However, even if I am not successful, the key takeaway is that there is nothing in the passage to actually tie death and separation together. The only argument the traditionalist offers is “what else could God have meant by ‘die’?” So if it is established that it is reasonable that God meant literal, physical death in Genesis 2:17, then there no longer is a reason to think that this passage affirmatively shows that death means separation.

I bring this up because in many discussions on this passage, traditionalists will say that they spiritually died by being separated from God, but they are not necessarily denying that physical death was also in view in Genesis 2:17. Charles Spurgeon, for example, affirmed spiritual death but also said that this passage was fulfilled because man became “legally dead” on that day because he became doomed to (physically) die. 3 Charles Spurgeon, “Free Will – A Slave,” [Sermon] New Park Street Chapel, London, December 2, 1855, https://www.spurgeon.org/resource-library/sermons/free-will-a-slave/#flipbook/ (accessed August 30, 2025). For another example, see Terry Mortenson, “Genesis 2:17 – You  “Answers in Genesis”, Answers in Genesis, May 2, 2007, https://answersingenesis.org/death-before-sin/genesis-2-17-you-shall-surely-die/(accessed August 30, 2025). In this case, they are not arguing that Genesis 2:17 establishes that death means separation. They already believe that death can mean conscious separation from God, and therefore are simply interpreting the passage to include that. And such an approach to scripture interpretation, and reasoning in general, is perfectly valid. But it also requires assuming a premise, and that premise – that death can mean conscious separation from God in the Bible – is the very thing in question.

Be on the look out for this, because not every time that spiritual death comes up regarding Adam and Eve is it meant as an argument for spiritual death and against annihilationism in the first place.

Evangelical Conditionalism Does Not Require the Spiritual Death Interpretation Being False

There are multiple, biblical reasons to believe in annihilationism that are independent from one another. The death and life language in the Bible is a compelling reason to believe in annihilationism. If it is established that death really can mean conscious separation from God in scripture, then this would at least damage the case from death/life language in the Bible. However, there are still other reasons to believe in annihilationism that are completely unaffected, such as the language of destruction (e.g. Matthew 10:28, 13:40, 2 Peter 2:6), and the biblical vision of eternity making eternal conscious hell untenable (which you can read more about in the article “The Biblical Vision of Eternity“). So annihilationism – or evangelical conditionalism as we like to call it here – does not stand or fall on what follows below.

Recap Of Core Arguments Made In Prior Material

The following is a quick recap of what was argued in Peter Grice’s 2017 article, as well as other Rethinking Hell sources when noted. What I will argue for below is in addition to these points and largely presumes their conclusions. Links to these resources can be found in the notes below.

  • The language of “on the day”/”in the day” and “on that day you shall surely die” is not meant woodenly in Hebrew to mean within that 24-hour, calendar day. It can be used loosely and idiomatically, the way English has some (albeit different) idioms where a day is a long time (like “back in my day…”). It is something we see elsewhere in the Old Testament. For example, Deuteronomy 27:2-4 has Moses give the commands of how the Israelites were to build an altar on Mount Ebal the day they cross the Jordan. But such a trek would have been effectively impossible to complete in a day. 4 For more on this, see, “RH Shorts: Genesis 2:17“. And even if it were possible, Joshua 8:30-34 shows us that they didn’t set up the altar until over a week later, after conquering Jericho. Nevertheless, v. 34 emphasizes that Joshua fully obeyed what Moses had commanded.
  • Death sentences elsewhere in the Old Testament use the same construct and language, despite the death not happening on the literal day. On that literal, calendar day, the death sentence takes effect, and so it was normal to speak of the death proleptically as occurring on that day. For example, in 1 Kings 2:37, Solomon warns that Shimei will die the day he leaves Jerusalem. Later, when Shimei leaves Jerusalem, and when more than 24 hours would have passed and Solomon recounted his command before executing him, Solomon once again spoke in terms of how Shimei was to die the day he left Jerusalem (vv. 42-45). In like manner, Adam and Eve were sentenced to death on that day.
  • A number of theologians and Old Testament scholars who are not annihilationists agree that what is in view in Genesis 2:17 is not spiritual death. It is often from there that we get insight as to the way Hebrew constructs the language of death sentences (i.e. “dying you shall die”) and use of the Hebrew yom (English “day”).

Even Their “Spiritual Death” Caused Their Physical Death

Before we look at the additional arguments against Genesis 2:17 being about spiritual death, there is a considerable weakness with using this passage to defend the traditional view against annihilationism even if the spiritual death view is true.

Adam and Eve did not forever stay physically alive but also separated from God. They suffered physical death. And that physical death was directly caused by them being separated from God. Them being kicked out of the garden meant that they couldn’t eat from the tree of life. And this was not a side effect; God kicked them out specifically for that purpose (Genesis 3:22-24).

Even if we were to grant that Genesis 2:17 uses death as a metaphor for conscious separation from God – and this is the only Old Testament passage I know of where anyone even claims the Old Testament uses death language this way – the fact that this separation directly caused physical death would still take much of the force out of any argument against annihilationism based on spiritual death. The one time spiritual death would actually be shown to happen, in the entire Bible, would be an instance where that spiritual death explicitly and intentionally leads to physical death! This spiritual death was not a perpetual state, but one that God specifically instituted as a temporary state to cause Adam and Eve to die literally and not just spiritually.

Physical Death, Not Spiritual, Is A Curse That God Pronounces On Adam

In this debate, we are trying to determine if Genesis 2:17 was about physical death or spiritual death (i.e. conscious separation from God). It is undeniable that Adam and Eve physically died as a result of their sin (Genesis 3:22-24). And while the meaning of “death” is debated, it is also true that Adam and Eve were kicked out of the garden and their relationship with God was damaged.

But of these two events that (for the sake of argument) could be called death, the literal deaths of their bodies and their separation from God, only one is actually a curse that God pronounces upon them.

In Genesis 3:16-19, at no point does God ever even mention anything about separation, their harmed relationship, or anything along the lines of what would be called spiritual death. But God does pronounce that the final curse upon Adam (and Eve by extension) is that he would return to the earth from where he was taken. In other words, physical death.

So let us think about what happened. The text shows us God warning of a fate upon someone if the person did something, and then it shows God telling the person that since they did the thing, they would suffer a form of that warned-of fate. Wouldn’t we normally expect this to mean that the text is tying those two things together?

Because that is what is happening here. God warned Adam that when he sinned, he would die. Then, after Adam sinned, God pronounced several curses on him, including a form of death (being physical death).

If God was warning of immediate so-called spiritual death in Genesis 2:17, why would he then decline to pronounce this curse of spiritual death on Adam when Adam did sin? Why would God not only do that, but then also go out of his way to tell Adam he was cursed with the other kind of death – the kind that he supposedly did not warn of in Genesis 2:17 in the first place?

It is not impossible that God was speaking of spiritual death in Genesis 2:17 and then spoke of an entirely different kind of death in Genesis 3:19. But this really should cause any reader to take a step back. It is far more reasonable that both passages, the warning of a curse and the resulting curse, would be about the same curse.

Adam And Eve Were Only Partially “Dead”

In normal human language, being dead or alive is a binary state. If you’re slightly alive, then you are not dead.

Adam and Eve were not cut off from God to nearly the degree that conscious people in hell are supposed to be. They experienced the same earthly graces of God that people enjoy now. Eve recognized her children as being gifts from the Lord (Genesis 4:25). It is also common for expositors to notice that despite them being “spiritually dead,” God cared enough to provide them covering by shedding blood and therefore making a sacrifice on their behalf in Genesis 3:21. Furthermore, Cain, who would have been just as spiritually dead as his parents and who was in a bad place with God (at least at the time), spoke with God directly. He seemed to have a connection to the Lord that believers don’t typically have!

Believers today are said to be alive (e.g. Ephesians 2:5). Being “dead” was a former state (v. 1). But we are still not in the garden. Eden has not been restored in any tangible sense. We have a connection to God that unbelievers do not, but in many ways we still resemble those who are still “dead.” The fact that we are not as close to God now as we will be undeniable. Otherwise, why would the Bible tell us that we will get to see God’s face in Revelation 22:4 – something even Moses couldn’t do and that no human can do in this life (Exodus 33:18-20)? So are we as believers partially “dead”?

An aside, I know it sounds dark and even tragic to speak of believers still being in a sort of probationary period in our relationship with God, even when we are saved and children of God. What sinful, human parent would treat their son or daughter that way, let alone our heavenly Father?

But we must remember that we will have eternal life with God. No amount of finite time, not even a googolplex of years, can even be measured against the infinite. It is beyond infinitesimal in comparison. Even an entire lifetime of us knowing God only in part is a speck in light of eternity. Even loving and nurturing parents might go away for a romantic getaway and leave their child with Grandma for a night. And given the math of our lives vs. eternity, I’d say that any feeling of distance from God in this life is really more just the equivalent of when a small child wants to be picked up by their dad when he gets home from work, and said child needs to wait a few seconds for the dad to put down his laptop case. Eternity makes all the difference.

Now with that in mind, if Adam and Eve eventually came to salvation (as some do believe happened), were they considered alive when that happened? But then, they would have still been outside of the garden – and the spiritual death view (at least generally) says that being outside of the garden and God’s immediate presence is what makes them dead.

Are we all then in varying degrees of death and life? Are believers today partially dead while partially alive? Are unbelievers even partially alive since God shows them his common grace (like Luke 6:35 talks about)?

Admittedly, this dilemma goes a bit beyond just Adam and Eve and to the idea of spiritual death more broadly. Nevertheless, Adam and Eve are a good example of this dilemma. If death means conscious separation from God, and therefore life means a relationship with God, how can this be binary when there can be varying degrees of closeness in a relationship?

Prolepsis in the Bible

There is a lot of prolepsis in the Bible, and we have some resources here on the topic. 5For more on this, see  “Prolepsis: A Matter of Life and Death” Parts 1Part 2, and Part 3. While a view more emphatic on physical death in this passage might not technically be prolepsis, it is proleptic in nature.

Prolepsis is a figure of speech that is common in both the Bible and modern language too. It describes a future event in the present tense, usually for emphasis. When someone is being walked down death row to be executed, someone might shout “dead man walking.” The person isn’t actually dead. But they will be soon.

This figure of speech fits a lot of non-literal uses of death language in the Bible, such as Ephesians 2:1. We also see it later in Genesis, in 20:3 when God tells Abimelech that he is “dead man” despite him clearly being alive. He was doomed to die – if he had not responded to God’s warning and fixed the situation he was in.

For God to use similar language in Genesis 2:17 makes sense. God would be warning Adam and Eve that if they sinned then their death sentence would be issued on that very day, and on that day they would become doomed to die. And we know that on that very day, they were cut off from the tree of life and no longer had access to immortality. On the day they ate of the tree, they become doomed to die like Abimelech was.

Even If Death Is Metaphorical, Spiritual Death Still Must Be Assumed

Why should we assume that, if Genesis 2:17 did mean death metaphorically, it was using it as a metaphor for the conscious separation from God that happened when Adam and Eve were kicked out of the garden of Eden?

Yes, many Christians already believe that death can mean conscious separation from God, and thus see the connection naturally. But what in the text indicates such a thing?

The appeal to Genesis 2:17 as being spiritual death is an argument from necessary inference. Adam and Eve didn’t actually die on the same day, so something had to happen that day which was meant by “death”. Adam and Eve were kicked out of the garden (probably) on that same calendar day, so therefore that is the metaphorical “death.” That’s pretty much the entire argument.

But Adam and Eve were given multiple curses. Being kicked out of God’s presence in the garden was not the only terrible thing to happen to them within that same 24 hour day.

One of the curses that God pronounced upon Adam was that he would have to eat by the sweat of his brow for all his days. Work became hard and toilsome and at times quite unfulfilling. And such work would become a central part of our lives as humans to this day.

If Adam and Eve were kicked out of the garden that day, then it would also be the case that as of that day, they would have needed to work the land outside of the garden in order to be able to eat and live. God probably provided some temporary food source until their crops grew, but they still had to start working right away (and that likely was even true of food sources that God might have provided, like fruit trees or a wheat field).

It is at least likely that work becoming more difficult became relevant to them on that very calendar day. Why, then, should we believe that the curse of work was not what was meant by “death” in Genesis 2:17?

There Is No Strong Argument For Separation From God Over The Curse of Work

I imagine some will scoff and say that obviously death doesn’t mean having to work on cursed ground. But why? Why is it obvious – other than the circular assumption that death means conscious separation from God?

Is it obvious because what literal death does, what we see happens to an unconscious dead body, is nothing like this curse?

I would agree. But the same is true of spiritual death.

How is conscious separation from God – or conscious anything – like being an unconscious corpse? In either case, a person could drum up some sort of vague connection. I could say that when the ground is cursed, a lot of work is meaningless and a waste. The same is true of physical death. It is a waste of a life because humans were meant to live forever with God, not be in the grave.

If that sounds contrived, if that sounds like it sort of makes sense but is pretty ad-hoc, that’s because it is. That’s also how it sounds when it is argued that death is a metaphor for separation from God because if you don’t have God in your life, then your life is really more like a corpse without a spirit to animate it (or something like that).

Conscious (partial) separation from God wasn’t the only thing that happened on the calendar day when Adam and Eve sinned. Therefore, asserting that Genesis 2:17 must be referring to separation from God is just an assumption.

Conclusión

If you don’t already have the concept of spiritual death in mind, you really aren’t going to see it in this passage. It isn’t there. It’s not the point of the passage. It is simply an attempt to try to fix an apparent apologetic concern that arises from Genesis 2-3. And that itself is a noble goal. But honing in on one word and trying to give an ad-hoc solution is not an effective solution. The more you dig into it, as shown above, the weaker and weaker it gets.

And that is okay. Christians (and Jews) have been able to sufficiently answer this question for a long time, to the extent it was ever a problem at all (since ancient Hebrew readers probably understood it right the first time). Does it require not taking things as woodenly as possible and looking a bit at the complexities and flexibilities of language? Sure. But the same is true for saying that Adam and Eve died spiritually. At least positing that Adam and Eve died by becoming subject to physical death on that very day does not require us to change the meaning of death itself.

References
1 There is also another metaphorical interpretation of passages like Ephesians 2:1, sometimes used in Reformed circles, which says that being “dead” describes one’s inability to seek or know God apart from regeneration. This view has some of the same problems, since you must define “dead” apart from the text and read this metaphorical meaning back in. But this alternative view does not challenge annihilationism, since its metaphorical meaning of death cannot describe the punishment of the damned in hell. For more on this, see “A Common Reformed Interpretation of Ephesians 2:1 Negates A Common Argument Against Annihilationism“.
2 The one other passage in the same class as Genesis 2:17 is the parable of the prodigal son in Luke 15:11-31. For more on this, see “Prolepsis and Hell: A Matter of Life and Death – Part 3“.
3 Charles Spurgeon, “Free Will – A Slave,” [Sermon] New Park Street Chapel, London, December 2, 1855, https://www.spurgeon.org/resource-library/sermons/free-will-a-slave/#flipbook/ (accessed August 30, 2025). For another example, see Terry Mortenson, “Genesis 2:17 – You  “Answers in Genesis”, Answers in Genesis, May 2, 2007, https://answersingenesis.org/death-before-sin/genesis-2-17-you-shall-surely-die/(accessed August 30, 2025).
4 For more on this, see, “RH Shorts: Genesis 2:17“.
5 For more on this, see  “Prolepsis: A Matter of Life and Death” Parts 1Part 2, and Part 3.

Introduction to Evangelical Conditionalism – Matthew 10:28

If you’ve ever heard of annihilationism, then you probably have heard Matthew 10:28 referenced. That is not to say that annihilationism stands or falls on this verse. On the contrary, one of annihilationism’s strengths is that multiple different passages and kinds of arguments demonstrate the doctrine independently from each other. This is true of the view broadly and of the specifically evangelical form that we hold to at Rethinking Hell.

Nevertheless, this passage is significant because it conveniently and concisely spells out the doctrine in one place. Annihilationism as a whole is basically just Matthew 10:28 when taken at face value:

And do not be afraid of those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. 1 Unless otherwise noted: Scripture quotations taken from the (NASB®) New American Standard Bible®, Copyright © 1960, 1971, 1977, 1995, 2020 by The Lockman Foundation. Used by permission. All rights reserved. lockman.org.

In the following, I will address this verse, explain why annihilationists consider it such compelling evidence for our view, and broadly address some of the objections to the annihilationist case from this verse (and why they fall short). Resources for further study will be noted throughout and can be found in the endnotes.

Continue reading “Introduction to Evangelical Conditionalism – Matthew 10:28”

References
1 Unless otherwise noted: Scripture quotations taken from the (NASB®) New American Standard Bible®, Copyright © 1960, 1971, 1977, 1995, 2020 by The Lockman Foundation. Used by permission. All rights reserved. lockman.org.