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Rethinking Hell Podcast

The Rethinking Hell Podcast is a central resource for a view on Hell called Conditional Immortality (a.k.a. Conditionalism or Annihilationism). Focusing on this biblical view as held by many Evangelical Christians, we interview notable proponents, respond to the challenges of critics, present the stories of people who once held to the traditional view but are now rethinking hell, and much more. Subscribe below!

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Episode 155: Keep CARM and Carry On: Responding to Matt Slick and CARM.org (Part 6)–The Straw Men of “Soul Sleep” and Intermediate State

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Episode 129: Eternal Torment vs. Conditional Immortality, Audience Q&A–Chris Date and Tony Costa Debate Hell, Part 3

Episode 128: “Is Conscious Torment of the Damned Eternal?”–Chris Date and Tony Costa Debate Hell, Part 2

Episode 127: “Is Immortality Only Given to the Saved?”–Chris Date and Tony Costa Debate Hell, Part 1

Episode 126: Rethinking Hell Live 01, Responding to William Lane Craig

Episode 116: Hell and Eschatological Humility; A Conversation with Veli-Matti Kärkkäinen

Episode 115: “The Precious Blood of Christ”: A Response to James White

Episode 108: Chronicles of the Apocalypse: Brian Godawa on Conditionalism and Orthodox Preterism

Episode 106: In the Line of [Eternal] Fire: Dr. Michael Brown on Conditionalism and Hell

Episode 101: "Hell Under Fire" Under Fire, Part 1: The History of Hell

Episode 94: "Is Conditional Immortality Biblical?" Chris Date and Len Pettis Debate Hell

Episode 88: Honoring the Martyrs, with Preston Sprinkle

Episode 86: Four Views on Hell 2.0—Conditionalism, with John Stackhouse

Episode 84: Four Views on Hell 2.0—Purgatory, with Jerry Walls

Episode 80: Four Views on Hell 2.0—Traditionalism, with Denny Burk

Episode 65: A Response to the Mohler-Date Debate, Part 1

Episode 50: Necrophobia! with Glenn Peoples and Chris Date

Episode 44: The Geography of Hell, with Kim Papaioannou

Episode 40: All You Want to Know About Hell, with Steve Gregg

Episode 31: Quenching Zeal? with Craig Blomberg

Episode 12: Keep Calm and Rethink Hell, with Justin Brierley

Episode 7: Traditional Objections Answered with Chris Date

Episode 4: The Case for Annihilationism with Glenn Peoples

All episodes

Episode 155: Keep CARM and Carry On: Responding to Matt Slick and CARM.org (Part 6)–The Straw Men of “Soul Sleep” and Intermediate State

Episode 154: Keep CARM and Carry On: Responding to Matt Slick and CARM.org (Part 5)–The Straw Men of “Soul Sleep” and Intermediate State

Episode 153: Keep CARM and Carry On: Responding to Matt Slick and CARM.org (Part 4)–Redefining Our Basic Terms and Beliefs (Continued)

Episode 152: Keep CARM and Carry On: Responding to Matt Slick and CARM.org (Part 3)–Redefining Our Basic Terms and Beliefs

Episode 151: Keep CARM and Carry On: Responding to Matt Slick and CARM.org (Part 2)–Mishandling Conditionalist Literature

Episode 150: Keep CARM and Carry On: Responding to Matt Slick and CARM.org (Part 1)–Toward Better Interactions with Conditionalists

Episode 149: Teaching with Integrity: Presenting All Sides in the Debate on Hell, with Michael Zwaagstra

Episode 148: Hell and Abductive Reasoning: An Interview with Atheist Ed Atkinson

Episode 147: Public Ministry and the Shibboleth of Hell, with Dan Paterson

Episode 146: Date vs. Burns on Hell; Debate Review, Part 2

Episode 145: Date vs. Burns on Hell; Debate Review, Part 1

Episode 144: Revelation and Reverence: A Response to Doctrine and Devotion, Part 2

Episode 143: Revelation and Reverence: A Response to Doctrine and Devotion, Part 1

Episode 142: “Will the Lost Remain Alive in Hell Forever?” Chris Date and Ross Burns Debate Hell

Episode 141: Date vs. Costa on Hell; Debate Review, Part 3

Episode 140: Date vs. Costa on Hell; Debate Review, Part 2

Episode 139: Date vs. Costa on Hell; Debate Review, Part 1

Episode 138: The History of Hell–A Conversation With Bart Ehrman

Episode 137: The Apocalyptic Paul, with Nick Quient

Episode 136: Conditionalism Stands to Reason (Part 5)

Episode 135: Conditionalism Stands to Reason (Part 4)

Episode 134: Conditionalism Stands to Reason (Part 3)

Episode 133: Conditionalism Stands to Reason (Part 2)

Episode 132: Conditionalism Stands to Reason (Part 1)

Episode 131: Annihilation and Divine Violence, with Tremper Longman III

Episode 130: Annihilation in Revelation, with Ian Paul

Episode 129: Eternal Torment vs. Conditional Immortality, Audience Q&A–Chris Date and Tony Costa Debate Hell, Part 3

Episode 128: “Is Conscious Torment of the Damned Eternal?”–Chris Date and Tony Costa Debate Hell, Part 2

Episode 127: “Is Immortality Only Given to the Saved?”–Chris Date and Tony Costa Debate Hell, Part 1

Episode 126: Rethinking Hell Live 01, Responding to William Lane Craig

Episode 125: “Evigt Liv i Kristus Jesus”–Conditionalism and Evangelism in Sweden, with Micael Grenholm

Episode 124: The Bible Brodown on What’ll Go Down (in Hell)

Episode 123: Sinners in the Presence of a Loving God, with R. Zachary Manis

Episode 122: Endgame, Part 2: Not the End of Evangelical Commitment

Episode 121: Endgame, Part 1: Not the End of Church Unity

Episode 120: Reasonable Annihilationism: Hell, Apologetics, and Evangelism

Episode 119: “Why I am Not (Yet) a Conditionalist”–Part 2, With Chris Woznicki

Episode 118: “Why I am Not (Yet) a Conditionalist”–Part 1, With Zachary Seals

Episode 117: Hell and Hermeneutics; A Response to Lindsay Brooks—Plus 2019 Conference Announcement!

Episode 116: Hell and Eschatological Humility; A Conversation with Veli-Matti Kärkkäinen

Episode 115: “The Precious Blood of Christ”: A Response to James White

Episode 114: “An Unquenchable Doctrine”: Chris Date on the Recent History of Conditional Immortality

Episode 113: Date and Quient vs. Richardson and Lauriston Debate Review

Episode 112: “Does the Bible Teach Eternal Conscious Torment?” Date and Quient Debate Richardson and Lauriston

Episode 111: Rethinking “Hell Theology” in the Raw

Episode 110: "Hell Under Fire" Under Fire, Part 8: Annihilationism Under Fire

Episode 109: "Hell Under Fire" Under Fire, Part 7: Will Everyone Ultimately Be Saved?

Episode 108: Chronicles of the Apocalypse: Brian Godawa on Conditionalism and Orthodox Preterism

Episode 107: "Hell Under Fire" Under Fire, Part 6: The Preacher and Hell

Episode 106: In the Line of [Eternal] Fire: Dr. Michael Brown on Conditionalism and Hell

Episode 105: "Hell Under Fire" Under Fire, Part 5: Hell in Biblical and Systematic Theology

Episode 104: "Hell Under Fire" Under Fire, Part 4: "Eternal Destruction" and Hell in Paul

Episode 103: "Hell Under Fire" Under Fire, Part 3: Hell in the Teaching of Jesus

Episode 102: "Hell Under Fire" Under Fire, Part 2: Progressive Revelation of Hell

Episode 101: "Hell Under Fire" Under Fire, Part 1: The History of Hell

Episode 100: Celebrating One Hundred Episodes!

Episode 99: A Consuming Passion Festschrift Special (Part 3)

Episode 98: Date vs. Pettis Debate Review (Part 3)

Episode 97: Date vs. Pettis Debate Review (Part 2)

Episode 96: Date vs. Pettis Debate Review (Part 1)

Episode 95: "Issuant" Views and the Problem of Hell, with Ray Baker

Episode 94: "Is Conditional Immortality Biblical?" Chris Date and Len Pettis Debate Hell

Episode 93: A Consuming Passion Festschrift Special (Part 2)

Episode 92: A Consuming Passion Festschrift Special (Part 1)

Episode 91: Fear, Fire, and the Pharisees; A Response to Joel Richardson (Part 2)

Episode 90: Fear, Fire, and the Pharisees; A Response to Joel Richardson (Part 1)

Episode 89: Giving Up Hell for a Year, with Kurt Willems

Episode 88: Honoring the Martyrs, with Preston Sprinkle

Episode 87: Four Views on Hell 2.0—Universalism, with Robin Parry

Episode 86: Four Views on Hell 2.0—Conditionalism, with John Stackhouse

Episode 85: Her Gates Will Never Be Shut, with Brad Jersak

Episode 84: Four Views on Hell 2.0—Purgatory, with Jerry Walls

Episode 83: Pastor With No [Good] Answers (On Hell), a Response to Sean Cole (Part 3)

Episode 82: Pastor With No [Good] Answers (On Hell), a Response to Sean Cole (Part 2)

Episode 81: Pastor With No [Good] Answers (On Hell), a Response to Sean Cole (Part 1)

Episode 80: Four Views on Hell 2.0—Traditionalism, with Denny Burk

Episode 79: Almost Heretics, a Response to Todd Friel (Part 2)

Episode 78: Almost Heretics, a Response to Todd Friel (Part 1)

Episode 77: Burning Love (and Consuming Fire), a Response to Robin Parry (Part 2)

Episode 76: Burning Love (and Consuming Fire), a Response to Robin Parry (Part 1)

Episode 75: The New City Catechism on Hell (Part 2)

Episode 74: The New City Catechism on Hell (Part 1)

Episode 73: No Penitent in Hell, a Response to James White (Part 2)

Episode 72: No Penitent in Hell, a Response to James White (Part 1)

Episode 71: The View From the Outside, with Andrew Whyte (Part 2)

Episode 70: The View From the Outside, with Andrew Whyte (Part 1)

Episode 69: Buzzfeeding Hell, a Response to J. D. Greear

Episode 67: The 2014 Conference Interview with Edward Fudge

Episode 66: A Response to the Mohler-Date Debate, Part 2

Episode 65: A Response to the Mohler-Date Debate, Part 1

Episode 64: Up For Debate? A Response to Kevin Zuber, with Ronnie Demler and Chris Date (Part 2)

Episode 63: Up For Debate? A Response to Kevin Zuber, with Ronnie Demler and Chris Date

Episode 62: A Baptist’s Change of Mind

Episode 61: Long Before WWII; A Response to Albert Mohler

Episode 60: Withdrawing His Sustaining Hand, with Greg Boyd

Episode 59: Death, Adam and Eve, and Ephesians 2:1, with Joey Dear (Part 2)

Episode 58: Persuasive or Evasive? Subtle and Not-So-Subtle Shifts in Traditionalist Dialectics, with Ronnie Demler

Episode 57: Death, Adam and Eve, and Ephesians 2:1, with Joey Dear (Part 1)

Episode 56: The [True] Truth About Hell; A Response to John MacArthur, with Joey Dear and Chris Date (Part 3)

Episode 55: The [True] Truth About Hell; A Response to John MacArthur, with Joey Dear and Chris Date (Part 2)

Episode 54: The [True] Truth About Hell; A Response to John MacArthur, with Joey Dear and Chris Date (Part 1)

Episode 53: God's Justice, God's Mercy, with Harold Eberle

Episode 52: The Fire That Reconciles, with Shawn Bawulski

Episode 51: Questioning the Bible Answer Man: A Response to Hank Hanegraaff, with Nick Quient and Ronnie Demler

Episode 50: Necrophobia! with Glenn Peoples and Chris Date

Episode 49: 2014 Book and Conference Teaser

Episode 48: Rethinking Hell Down Under with Ralph Bowles

Episode 47: The Dark Side of Destiny, with Greg Crofford

Episode 46: Immortality in the Early Church, with John Roller (Part 2)

Episode 45: Immortality in the Early Church, with John Roller (Part 1)

Episode 44: The Geography of Hell, with Kim Papaioannou

Episode 43: The Evangelical Universalist, with Robin Parry

Episode 42: Hell and Mr. Fudge, with Jim Wood

Episode 41: Damning Assumptions, with Max Sotak

Episode 40: All You Want to Know About Hell, with Steve Gregg

Episode 39: Is Hell Forever? Chris Date and Phil Fernandes Debate Hell

Episode 38: The Centrality of Conditionalism, with Tom Robinson

Episode 37: The Making of an Atheist, with Jim Spiegel

Episode 36: Straight Thinking About Hell Part 2, with Daniel Sinclair and Chris Date

Episode 35: Straight Thinking About Hell Part 1, with Daniel Sinclair and Chris Date

Episode 34: Why Didn’t They Tell Me That? with Mike Owens

Episode 33: Standing for Authority, with Chuck McKnight

Episode 32: A Year of Rethinking Hell

Episode 31: Quenching Zeal? with Craig Blomberg

Episode 30: Christ Minimized? with Jon Zens

Episode 29: Conditionalism and Reformed Theology, with Stan and Adam Murrell (Part 2)

Episode 28: Conditionalism and Reformed Theology, with Stan and Adam Murrell

Episode 27: The Jesus (and Hell) Scandals, with David Instone-Brewer

Episode 26: A Response to Thomas Dollahite, with Joey Dear and Chris Date (Part 2)

Episode 25: A Response to Thomas Dollahite, with Joey Dear and Chris Date

Episode 24: Discussing the Case for Annihilationism, with Steve Jeffery

Episode 23: Response to Matt Waymeyer (Part 3)

Episode 22: The End of the Unrepentant, with Webb Mealy

Episode 21: Response to Matt Waymeyer (Part 2)

Episode 20: A Response to Matt Waymeyer's Annihilation Lecture at Shepherd's Conference 2012

Episode 19: Eternity: Heaven or Hell, with David Reagan

Episode 18: A Response to Chris Rosebrough, with Chris Date and Glenn Peoples

Episode 17: The Truth About Heaven and Hell, with Douglas Jacoby

Episode 16: The Family that Debates (Hell) Together, with Adam and Melanie Zens

Episode 15: The Lie of Hell, with Roger Harper

Episode 14: Rescue From Death, with Robert Taylor (Part 2)

Episode 13: Rescue From Death, with Robert Taylor

Episode 12: Keep Calm and Rethink Hell, with Justin Brierley

Episode 11: Hellbound? with Kevin Miller

Episode 10: What Siddhartha Wanted with Douglas Wilson

Episode 9: Everything New with Jeff Cook

Episode 8: A Message to Traditionalists from Glenn Peoples

Episode 7: Traditional Objections Answered with Chris Date

Episode 6: Erasing Hell with Preston Sprinkle (Part 2)

Episode 5: Erasing Hell with Preston Sprinkle

Episode 4: The Case for Annihilationism with Glenn Peoples

Episode 3: The Goodness of God with John Stackhouse

Episode 2: A Final Word With Edward Fudge (Part 2)

Episode 1: A Final Word With Edward Fudge